Posted on 04/18/2005 7:16:16 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
Let the tech List know, this is interesting stuff.
Great just what we need macromedia products to be priced by Adobe... Buy it now while you can..
I like the possibilities that this merger/aquisition entails, such as flash video support by premiere and after effects.
So now does this mean flash and shockwave will become as bloated an app as adobe has made acrobat reader?
Stay tuned!
Say buhbye to Dreamweaver.
all your creative content softwares are belong to us.
How does this mean the end of dreamweaver? website design is one category that Adobe doesn't have a very strong showing in. Adding dreamweaver (with automatically integrated flash and PDF support) puts them in direct competition with frontpage and Microsoft. I like that.
Not the end as in not available; the end as in a clean program thats affordable.
Adobe has bloated and over priced everything they have done, IMO.
adobe has always been overpriced. it's part of their mystique. Like buying a mac. You pay more for the priviledge of saying "I own a Mac." Same thing with Adobe Products. The only reason I use Premiere Pro right now is because I got a free copy for a class I teach on it.
I'm a very long-time Adobe user, and this can only be good. Here are my guesses where the product lines merge:
Photoshop and Illustrator remain as the pro tools. ImageReady gains from technology in Fireworks.
GoLive and Dreamweaver merge into the best web design app out there.
Fireworks and Freehand go to the corporate/home market along with PageMaker.
LiveMotion gets dumped, Flash rules, but gets better SVG support.
RoboHelp gets integrated into the PDF workflow technology. Also look for some technology sharing between PDF and Flash.
Non-competing tools like InDesign, Director and Captivate stay alone.
In freaking out over product lines, don't forget that many of Adobe's and Macromedia's products were also formerly acquisitions. Adobe got PageMaker from Aldus, and Macromedia got Freehand. Adobe acquired GoLive from GoLive (taking the company name, and original product name, for the CyberStudio product). Macromedia acquired Allaire, getting ColdFusion. Dreamweaver's programming tools came from Macromedia's acquisition of Elemental Software, getting Drumbeat (then dropping Drumbeat and angering a lot of people). Macromedia bought RoboHelp and with it Captivate from eHelp.
So this is just another integration step, and hopefully with it better software. I think Adobe/Macromedia needs this in the Web area to compete with Microsoft Visual Studio.
Mainly because nobody knows GoLive exists. Going on the list if features, it's roughly equal to Dreamweaver, except its integration with other Adobe apps is awesome. I can drop in a huge CMYK Photoshop file meant for print, pick and choose my layers, and the resulting graphic is a well-optimized bitmap of my choice. And changes in the original Photoshop file show in GoLive. Same with Illustrator files.
Not really. If you do pro graphics, you'll think Photoshop is downright cheap, especially since a mistake due to poor separations or color management (two things Photoshop is excellent at) will cost you more than Photoshop did.
Also, if you've been used to using Quark XPress, you'll love the deal you get on InDesign.
agreed. But for the "starving college student" or someone just looking to get into a given field, their products can be cost prohibitive. I have used Sonic/Sony Vegas Video, and Pinnacle Studio in my own production endevors due to the cost involved with Premiere. I have noticed that the more feature Rich Vegas video becomes, the higher they jack the price up. As long as I keep teaching the class on Premiere, and it keeps getting me free software, I'm not one much to complain.
all your creative content softwares are belong to us.
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You can say that again. I pray that dreamweaver stays intact. It is a far better product when dealing with code applications than go live.
That's because they're professional-level products. Adobe does have a deep educational discount though. BTW, if you think Premiere's expensive ($700), check out Final Cut Pro ($1,000) or Avid ($1,700).
I am glad for educational discounts. It always left students in a quandry, from my perspective. If you're in school studying graphic arts but cannot afford what is considered the standard graphic arts program in the "real world", how can one be expected to have the skills neccessary to succeed.
I know all about the cost of those video programs. I tried sneaking Avid Xpress Mojo into the latest request I made for a new system at my office and my business manager just laughed at me.
They should be able to afford it on the discount, but even if they can't, whatever application you're using will teach them the concepts. Once you have the concepts down, which application you're using isn't a big learning curve.
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