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Rick Santorum is a FAKE!
vanity | 04/11/2005 | Duane Call

Posted on 04/11/2005 1:10:23 PM PDT by NraFreedom

It would appear that Rick Santorum is trying to make himself appear as a closet Liberal. According to cited sources, he has "proposed raising the minimum wage; suggested that the death penalty be reserved for the most dangerous of killers; voted with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., on curbing sex and violence in the media; and sided with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., on a bill protecting religious freedom in the workplace."

Of course his real turn coat action of late has been his suggestion Sunday that "embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay needs to answer questions about his ethics and "let the people then judge for themselves."

What a traitorist tactic to take toward the agenda of the US President; not to mention this attack on one whom the "honorable" Senator has called friend.

No wonder the Rebublican Senators are so lacking in backbone, when the third most powerful Republican in the US Senate is the first to cave to opposition forces instead of being a man and keeping his mouth shut!

There is nothing in the Delay accusations that can hold water. It is the Democrats and the way they work. It is too bad that the Republicans in the Senate have learned nothing concerning teaching the truth to the voting public instead of turning on each other.

In my opinion, Rick Santorum should be sent home with a good whipping and a real man sent from his state to stand up for what is right instead of selling his own for staying in office!


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To: Tribune7
I have no doubt that he is our friend (and he is getting support from Rush & talkradio) but since he is in the House and it's the Senate (and Santorum) that vote on judges, his influence on that matter is almost nil.

I thought the appointments had to pass through the House, after the Senate Committee voted on them. Be that the case, I stand corrected.

Still, Santorum is attacking one of the few who fight for us, and he has no business doing it.

61 posted on 04/11/2005 2:54:02 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NRA2BFree
I did not know that. I thought they had to pass through the House, after the Senate Committee voted on them. I stand corrected.

The Senate Judiciary Committee has to vote to move the nomination to the floor, then the whole Senate has to approve. The House has no role in judicial and other appointments.

Any legislation, of course, must pass both houses.

When Santorum sided with Arlen Specter heading up that Committee, he proved that he's no conservative. I don't trust him.

It's politics. Neither Santorum nor Bush would voluntarily choose Specter for that role, but you must sometimes play party politics. Specter's time is waning, Santorum's is waxing.

SD

62 posted on 04/11/2005 2:56:56 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: NraFreedom
unfortunately I think Senator Hatch wants to stay back there more than he wants to what is right for the country

Ah, Senator Hatch. I used to enjoy watching his unflappable conservatism in action on Capital Hill and the various talk shows.

It was sad to see him fade away.

The Repubs have learned that the key to longevity on Capital Hill is to go with the liberal flow or face the liberal propaganda machine fueled by Clinton, Gore, Kennedy, Kerry, el al, and spread by their sympathetic media outlet.

63 posted on 04/11/2005 3:02:32 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Initially he had both WND and Newsmax listed on the body of the article. Is that no longer there? I know someone asked for the moderator to make some sort of changes.

That is why I asked. With WND posted as a link, but no article listed it appears to have been an article or op-ed written for WND.

Do you understand now?

Besides, saying Tom DeLay should answer questions doesn't mean Santorum is DOING anything to him.

Are you opposed to Republicans having to account for their actions?

I'm a staunch republican and a very strong Bush supporter, but I don't see a thing wrong with having politician's having to account for their actions.
64 posted on 04/11/2005 3:04:52 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: NraFreedom

If Santorum is a fake, what are his fellow Republicans?


65 posted on 04/11/2005 3:11:52 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: SoothingDave
Well, I really would not go as far as to say that Mr. Delay as a leader of the majority in the House of Representatives has nothing to do with the votes cast for or against judges in the "advise and consent" of the Senate.

Mr. Delay has been a straight shooter from the giddy-up-go and as such has caused a lot of Senators and Representatives to stand up a bit taller and stand for what they believe in (on both sides of the ile(sp). Now that the conservatives (people who believe this country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles) are in control the liberals (those who oppose God and anything that smacks of a right and a wrong) are coming apart.

As I have said in response to Tribune under this post, I believe very strongly that we who see a right way to do things, and our Representatives in both houses, have to play the game right or we will lose the game. Mr. Delay can and does twist arms in BOTH houses to get the votes needed to pass the agenda of President Bush.

The only problem that Mr. Delay has in the Senate are those Senators who still think that the Dems are playing by the rules, which they are not. These are what Mr. Delay would refer to as "problem" senators. They need to stop playing like it is 1805 and play the game that is before them in 2005.

There really are Senators who believe that their "perks" have been earned and that the Senate is above the common folks and the "common" House. Unfortunately there are too many of these Senators who have an R behind their names and who refuse to realize that this is WAR.

66 posted on 04/11/2005 3:26:48 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: cowboyway

And, may I add, that is the very reason we need to get those wimps out of there and find able men who are not afraid to fight and win.

BTW, You can win and only serve one term (that is my point).


67 posted on 04/11/2005 3:29:15 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: k2blader

I would suggest a close purusal of the rest of the comments. That will let you know that many of us feel that too many of the Senators with an R behind their names are RINOs with no spine to stand up and take the heat put out by our DEM friends.


68 posted on 04/11/2005 3:32:57 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I am sorry that I did not provide links. I put my sources in the content of the post. I guess I will gather all the links that I refer to and put them in the post. I think I know how to do it. I just thought that those interested could go and look it up on the websites.

I will try to do better next time.


69 posted on 04/11/2005 3:49:16 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: texasflower
Initially he had both WND and Newsmax listed on the body of the article. Is that no longer there? I know someone asked for the moderator to make some sort of changes.

It was never in the original article. WND and Newsmax didn't come up until in the 17th post. I think they pinged the moderator because another poster thought he didn't give a link.

That is why I asked. With WND posted as a link, but no article listed it appears to have been an article or op-ed written for WND.

He didn't post that link. It was a VANITY. Actually, it's not just been on News Max or WND, it's been all over the main stream media. I saw it on ABC world news last night, and it's been on Fox News for a few days.

Do you understand now?

I understood from the beginning. I'm not the one who was confused. :-)

Besides, saying Tom DeLay should answer questions doesn't mean Santorum is DOING anything to him.

Of course it's a very bad thing. He's questioning Tom DeLay's ETHICS and that's about as bad as it gets.

Are you opposed to Republicans having to account for their actions?

See, that's what you're confused about. Tom DeLay did NOTHING wrong. It was NOT illegal. The RATS started it, just like they always do, and Santorum threw in with them, and that's just wrong. He's a turncoat and he needs to apologize to Congressman DeLay.

I'm a staunch republican and a very strong Bush supporter, but I don't see a thing wrong with having politician's having to account for their actions.

Yeah, and they should when they have actually done something wrong, but that's the point that you keep missing. Tom DeLay did NOTHING illegal. NOTHING wrong. I'm a registered Republican too, but that doesn't exonerate them when they do something wrong. President Bush has done some bad things too and I won't hesitate to criticize him when he's wrong either. Santorum won't get a pass either. America is in big trouble and it's time the Republicans stand up for us, instead of selling us out at every turn.

70 posted on 04/11/2005 5:39:02 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NRA2BFree

I posted my comment and let the thread. I didn't hang around until post 17. Did you stop think about why the poster at 17 brought up the same thing I mentioned?

Because both were listed when the article was initially posted. IIRC, WND was listed as the source link at the heading. It appears to have been altered by the mod.

Yes, I have heard all about DeLay. I don't think he did anything wrong either, that's why I don't think Santorum is selling him out.

So, DeLay shouldn't mind answering questions. But if he was doing something wrong that would need to come out.


71 posted on 04/11/2005 5:54:01 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: texasflower
I posted my comment and let the thread. I didn't hang around until post 17. Did you stop think about why the poster at 17 brought up the same thing I mentioned?

Huh? You were too around. You posted #5, and then again on #18. He first posted about WND on post #17, and the reason he posted it is because he was just mentioning that WND covered the story too. It was NOT posted on the original article.

Because both were listed when the article was initially posted. IIRC, WND was listed as the source link at the heading. It appears to have been altered by the mod.

No, it was NOT changed by the mods. There was no reason for them to change it. It was a vanity and it still is. It is the way he originally posted it. You need to go back and read the article again.

Yes, I have heard all about DeLay. I don't think he did anything wrong either, that's why I don't think Santorum is selling him out.

When someone questions your ethics, they are questioning your honesty. That is about as big a slap in the face that you can get. Santorum is wrong.

So, DeLay shouldn't mind answering questions. But if he was doing something wrong that would need to come out.

Had Santorum kept his mouth shut, Congressman Delay wouldn't have to answer to anything. The RATS have been trying to get DeLay out for a long time. That's because he does what he's supposed to do.

72 posted on 04/11/2005 7:06:07 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NRA2BFree

I know, it does now. Before it clearly stated it came from World Net Daily, which it didn't. The mods changed it.


73 posted on 04/11/2005 11:23:07 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: NraFreedom
No problem. To be honest, the Democrats stepped in it again with this one. Making this a going concern, they've just proven themselves to be hypocrites. Even the NYT hit piece on April 6th of DeLay proved that to be the case, including the fact if you read that entire Times article, what DeLay did was not such a big deal.

The NYT article even admits that Pelosi has done it, and Boxer has done the same thing too. Not sure what your beef with Santorum is though. I guess you don't appreciate the fact that the Republicans have gained 5 seats in the Senate since the 2002 midterms, and expects to increase that margin, only if people like you stop trying to stifle progress by attacking Republicans which only elects Democrats.

74 posted on 04/12/2005 1:23:57 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: NRA2BFree
No, it was NOT changed by the mods.

Actually it was. If you can find this article on WND, link it. That's the point of the space for URL's. FReepers aren't supposed to post a vanity rant and then just put in their favorite news site as a URL. It doesn't work that way here. Post an article, link to it. That's how things work.

75 posted on 04/12/2005 1:26:32 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: NraFreedom
BTW, You can win and only serve one term (that is my point)

I agree that term limits are key to cleaning up government and having elected officials that are more interested in the issues concerning their constituents than the longevity of their political careers.

The 1994 Contract with America had a provision for term limits which was quickly abandoned once the congressional freshmen realized how much they liked being on the Hill.

Term limits, which would require a constitutional amendment, have been all but forgotten and politicians from neither side will come close to touching this issue.

At the risk of getting another Curmudgeon Award, it's my opinion that the war for American constitutionalism is over. Period. The de facto nullification of the 10th Amendment in 1865 was the beginning of the end of states rights and the springboard for our current centralized form of socialist government. (And don't try to argue that we're not a socialist government when approximately 50% of the national budget is spent on social programs, all handed out from Socialism Central)

The form of government that the Founding Fathers envisioned is forever dead. All of the politicians that we send to Washington are liberal socialists pandering to the recipients of government handouts. The only difference between the dems and Repubs today is that the dems want to collect all the money and spread it out evenly and the Repubs want to let you keep a little bit for yourself.

But that will change as the current crop of yellow bellied Republicans on the Hill realize that they can't further their political careers unless they kowtow to the left and adhere to the lefts agenda.

76 posted on 04/12/2005 6:24:43 AM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: NraFreedom

I agree, 100%! Santorum probably has his hand in someone's pocket...


77 posted on 04/12/2005 9:16:00 AM PDT by Froufrou
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