What NBC's 'Revelations' Reveals

NBC Plugged In Online ^ | 4/11/2005 (?) | Tom Neven

[unlearner]

There

[netmilsmom]

>> Then why didn't Mel Gibson give the movie out for free?<<

Because it would have cost him even more.
If he handed it out for free, who would pay the little guys involved.
I agree with your idea, he did not hurt after this movie, but I do know that he refunded the fees that the churches were charged for prescreenings of the new cut of the film.

I personally sent a check to his church (the independent one) after seeing the film. Hopefully they will spread the word of the more traditional, yet loyal to Rome, Catholic church. They can do this because Mel built their church.

[ndkos]

Tradition has it that the "John" was the same John who wrote the fourth gospel and stood at the cross.

[stop_fascism]

Since you were there, you could probably tell me what happened to the Holy Grail. I've always wondered.

[freedumb2003]

Hollywierd hasn't a clue about the Bible or Christianity and hasn't had one for over sixty years.

They are still trying to talk James Caviezel into doing "The Passion II: Revenge of the Christ."

[HitmanLV]

I never really understood people's fixation on the end times. I never gave it too much thought - whether it happens sooner or later, I have to live my life the same way. Whether I die all by my lonesome or with a few billion others, I will still be judged on my own and on my record.

I think the fixation on it is less on the end times but on the 'saved' status of the person who has the fixation. In other words, despite their rhetoric they come off as almost giddy at the prospect of all sorts of awful things are going to happen to people not in their club, except of course they will be spared since they are in the special club.

That's dubious to me at best. At the very least it is self serving. At worst, it's pathological.

[Dominick]

What do you think this is, a documentary on the Rapture?

Using articles of Faith to promote a show, or a book is wrong, from a religious standpoint and a ethical one. How many people thing the devil walks around in flesh? How many stupid people think Christ had children with Mary Magdalene?

I class this with "Last Temptation of Christ" a truly blasphemous movie that had nothing going for it, but it's controversy.

[mlo]

Since you were there, you could probably tell me what happened to the Holy Grail. I've always wondered.

That's not a very useful response. Since you weren't there either you don't know the apostle did write it.

[mlo]

Tradition has it that the "John" was the same John who wrote the fourth gospel and stood at the cross.

That's true, and that's why many people believe it. Tradition however is often wrong.

None of the gospels were written by people who were there.

[ndkos]

I grant you that tradition is not always right, however it often is. As an example, about 40 years ago or so, they found the crypt of St. Peter and St. Paul right where tradition placed them. If you want to look further into this, I think you will find it highly likely that these were the same Peter and Paul that are so prominent in the New Testament because there graves were very prominantly marked.

Don't you think that there is a reasonably good possibility that the early Christians would remember very important events like the martyrdom of SS. Peter and Paul and who wrote the Gospels?

[stop_fascism]

Exactly. That's why I'm not making a blanket statement about authorship. You, otoh, are.

[stop_fascism]

There you go again.

[stop_fascism]

Isn't it amazing that all the people contemporary to events weren't blithering idiots. Often they know more about what happened than people a few thousand years removed. Henrik Schliemann found Troy by ignoring the experts of his day, who said it was only a myth, and instead consulting Homer.

[editor-surveyor]

"The apostle John didn't write it. It was someone else who happened to be named John."

Have you ever heard of Polycarp?

[anonymoussierra]

Thank you

[unlearner]

I just thought it was interesting news that I did not see covered elsewhere.

Maybe it caught my eye more because I have spent quite a bit of time studying Bible prophecy.

You are right about people sometimes being "almost giddy" about apocalyptic events. Others go to the other extreme and are overly morbid and fearful. We cannot stop what is going to happen. We can only be prepared for it and patient through it.

Anyway, I hope you are not, as you put it, "judged on my own and on my record". Only those who are as sinless as Jesus will be allowed into the Heavenly city.

No thieves, murderers, extortioners, drunkards or even liars will be permitted.

Everyone is going to personally meet Christ - whether through death or when He returns.

Unfortunately, anyone who is not as righteous as Jesus will go to the bad place.

[swmobuffalo]

Sorry I disagree.

[SoothingDave]

Using articles of Faith to promote a show, or a book is wrong, from a religious standpoint and a ethical one.

If you are arguing that there should never be religious themes used in art, then you are way off base. Religon has always inspired and informed art, including what can be considered "popular" entertainment.

We should not look to it for absolute truth, but I think to see TV acknowledge the existence of good and evil is not something to be deplored.

SD

[Dominick]

We should not look to it for absolute truth, but I think to see TV acknowledge the existence of good and evil is not something to be deplored.

Fictional plots cloaked in religious themes is a dangerous game.

DiVinci code comes up with the idea that Christ had children, and the Church acted in an evil manner to suppress the truth. Not only is that a slander on Mary Magdalene being secretly married, at best, which is a contradiction in terms for her day, but that Opus Dei acted criminally to hide this conspiracy? People don't know Opus Dei, it exists to teach the Truth that all everyday works of Man expresses it's dignity in the service of God in everyday life, and this tripe is the only exposure they have now, that they are said to indulge in criminal acts in the service of a conspiracy to hide the "truth"?

This doesn't acknowledge good and evil, it seeks a "balance", which means for good, a compromise, and for evil, a triumph. In any case the story of God is told through artistic works needs no fiction, look at the Passion, it added few elements, the elements added to the plot were a personification, and not a fictionalization, of the role of Satan.

Religion and Art are powerful tools together. I enjoy art in the service of God, I deplore "god" in the service of "Art".

[SoothingDave]

Religion and Art are powerful tools together. I enjoy art in the service of God, I deplore "god" in the service of "Art".

Well said. But I don't think every story needs to be a re-telling of something from Scripture. We are allowed to use our creativity, to a point.

My basic point is that no one has seen this show yet, so to pre-decide that it is insulting to God is a bit premature.

SD

[Dominick]

My basic point is that no one has seen this show yet, so to pre-decide that it is insulting to God is a bit premature

The extended trailer they showed during some cop show the other night made me think the role of Satan was highly fictionalized, and the Faith vs Science and the sexual tension between the Nun and Scientist gave me a wave of revulsion. You are essentially correct, I did not see the show. I think the sales pitch can give you an excellent idea that this is a DiVinci clone, seeing that they mentioned the book in the trailer.