It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)

Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

[eeevil conservative]

Again-- I am not saying that this IS what Gaddy told the Judge-- I am saying that at the time-- this is waht KEN believed to be the case--

Beth refused to talk to them-- except to keep saying that she was in control-- OH-- ANd I don't think Beth told the judge that she had duped the Hospice into thinking she had MEDICAL guardianship...

[eeevil conservative]

Again-- I am not saying that this IS what Gaddy told the Judge-- I am saying that at the time-- this is waht KEN believed to be the case--

Beth refused to talk to them-- except to keep saying that she was in control-- OH-- ANd I don't think Beth told the judge that she had duped the Hospice into thinking she had MEDICAL guardianship...

[eeevil conservative]

LOL!!

Can I say that again??

[olliecollie]

I noticed that he waited until Wednesday, I think Ken in the begining trusted that the doctors would come to the decison to care for his Aunt, who wouldn't?
In any case let's "Err on the side of Life"

[Fred Nerks]

Cunning. She selected comatose and PVS because she knew that in a hospice that would be end of her grandmother. From the moment of admittance the race was on. Would the little old lady die before she was evaluated by the doctors? Would lack of treatment and doses of morphine do the trick in a matter of days? And if she's going to die, why bother with eye-drops?
No wonder Kenneth took her out of there, he didn't have a moment to waste.

[judgemc]

Yes, that's true.

But in some earlier posts you made it sound like the granddaughter was relying too much on what the hospital thought. Maybe she felt like their was not much time left. Mae's sister had the same thing happen to her. The granddaughter could have just been getting bad advice.

Here I go again with the I, but I would really hate to think that the granddaughter was doing anything malicious to her grandmother. Maybe as jaded as I have become I just could never had treated my grandmother that way and can't picture anyone else doing that either.

[judgemc]

Thank you, can we start over?

Hi my name is Judgemc and I'm a bloggaholic. I just can't seem to stop.

[eeevil conservative]

I would tend to think Beth was just following what the doctors told her-- but it is like with the Terri case-- If you are so convinced that this is true-- why refuse anyone else-- (ESPECIALLY MAE'S SISTER WHO HAS BEEN THERE AND RECOVERED) to let other doctors come in. why all the I'm in control"

Then running to the judge without telling the family, etc...

sad-- very sad the whole thing.. I don't trust Gaddy-- heck she was supposed to put out a statement of HER side today... well- instead we got the court ruling.

I am projecting here- BUT IF I WERE MISS GADDY MY BUTT WOULD BE OUT THERE CLEARING THINGS UP! I would also be THANKING KENNETH for GETTING MAE THE HELP SHE DESERVES! THIS IS HER GRANDMA!

okay-- I just lost my grandma, and I had no say so in her right to fight for life. Heck they surrounded her bed saying. "It's okay to let go.." She squeezed their hand and shook her head NO!

So I may be a little biased on GADDY right now-- but she has shown NO GOOD FAITH! She has done NOTHING to lend her the benefit of the doubt..

I am a little heated on this post-- but not directed at you.. hope you know that...

[judgemc]

My grandmother died four months after my daughter was born. That was about 2 years ago. The last good picture I have of her is when she held he first great-granddaughter on her day home form the hospital.

I had a say in her care, but she had the last say.

I know where your coming from.

[judgemc]

I am wondering why she hasn't released a statement too!

[Fred Nerks]

Let me try to explain something to you. Not just in this case, but many others in my experience, it happens that a family member or next of kin, over a number of years, assists in the care of an elderly relative. They run errands for them, they arrange for home maintenance etc., and as time passes, they become totally familiar with the relative's financial position. The operative word here is 'familiar' - over time the relative begins to view the assets of that person as belonging to them...when they die...they become privvy to the contents of the person's Will, and human nature being what it is, there are some who just can't wait. Elderly people are not always pleasant, they are cranky, they are suspicious (often with good reason) and when an opportunity presents itself, it's tempting to move the situation along...but as homicide has too strong a penalty, the hospice offers what appears to be a legal alternative. On the face of it, all one has to do is apply for guardianship, admit the 'patient' as 'comatose or PVS' and state that the patient is not expected to survive beyond a certain time limit. As a hospice is not equipped to deliver medical care beyond 'assisting the patient to die' the outcome is obvious.
Unless someone else steps in and removes the patient from the hospice to seek proper medical treatment - the patient dies.

[eeevil conservative]

Just got an email from Kenneth.. I will edit a bit-- for reasons of not wanting to betray his trust.

HERE:

"just did 10 minutes on the national radio show hosted by Michael Reagan show... at approximately 5:45PM CST.

He is a great supporter of life and a good man...he will follow my Aunt's plight and do a follow up segment on it.

Reagan said he believes Gaddy is motivated by my Aunt's money, via the fact that she and her two siblings stand to inherit all of their grandmothers estate. I told him I surely hope that is not the case and I feel that Beth is motivated by misplaced love and very bad advice..

Also I was on my second Glenn Beck Show this morning to advance my Aunt Mae's case and the cause of life...what a caring man."


I told him about what Judge Boyd said on GLenn Beck after show show..so that is what this next part is about...


"There is talk from Beck insiders that Glenn wants me back on tomorrow with Judge Boyd...I sooooooo welcome the opportunity since Boyd has called me a liar and stated that I told him I was a Congressman when in fact, I did not.

It seems Judge Boyd has a hard time with the nuances of the English language because I told him
"I was once with the Congress"
as I once was, as a senior staffer and spokesman for a member of congress in Washington, DC for many years. "


I will say Boyd was handicapped by my cousin Beth, in that she failed to fully advise him that she had misstated to the hospital and the hospice that she held the medical power of attorney when in fact held NO medical decision making authority EVER for Mae Magouirk.

She also stated that she has "taken care" of her grandmother for the past 10 years when in fact, Mae Magouirk has always lived alone and independently since the death of her husband Charlie.

Boyd was also handicapped by the fact that Gaddy DID NOT reveal to him that WE were the closest living next of kin (NOT HER) and that we wished to intervene to save Mae's life" and put her into a hospice in which she would never walk out of alive.

A good friend suggested that we get other family members to talk.

Well it is just my Mom and her brother, my uncle. They are not bloggers or public advocates and they are very personal people.

Mom has a serious heart condition and we don't want to excite her and Uncle Buddy has requested that there be one concise and on message voice from our family.....that is me!

So doubters will doubt and as Rhett Butler once said...........
well, you know the quote!

Thanks
Ken/Nephew of Mae

PS: Tomorrow you should see an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution

[Fred Nerks]

Nice one!

[eeevil conservative]

This comment brought tears to my eyes-- I still really miss my grandma, still very open wound...

[judgemc]

I am crying.

I took care of her. She taught me how to can fruit.

[eeevil conservative]

Yes it is...

[eeevil conservative]

A good friend suggested that we get other family members to talk. You know where that came from, dont you??

[eeevil conservative]

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[judgemc]

what did I do now?

[supercat]

It looks like she told all three of them. Perhaps, she told them this from her hospice or hospital bed while she was still lucid. This is only a speculation on my part, though.

My interpretation would be that she addressed them separately, and thus one of them would be reporting each statement. The petition really doesn't make that clear, though. I don't know whether the relatives gave any tesimony at the hearing as to what she said, but I would hope they would try to do so; the evidentiary value of hearsay delivered in court would be limitted, but the evidentiary value of the statements in the petition is nil).