Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin
This is the pastor's whole statement.
Thanks for the email. I learned of this matter a couple of hours ago and made a call to the head of the [omitted] who handles political and moral issues. Having spent most of the entire day yesterday investigating the matter, the [omitted] told me that the story is untrue. There is supposed to be a press conference at 4:00pm today to help clarify the misinformation. The editor of the local paper also will be reporting that the WND article lacks veracity. The details are many, but in short, the grandmother is not being denied anything, but refuses herself to eat (there never was a feeding tube). POA arrangements were made while the court was on break by the family among themselves. The judge was not in the room when the family agreed among themselves to give custody to the granddaughter.
http://straightupwsherri.blogspot.com/2005/04/back-on-free-audio-of-interview-with.html#comments
This is where the info came from. You can e-mail the gentleman who obtained the statement and get the unedited version from him.
Boy, you have got that right.
I finally figured this out some years ago. I wondered "Now why is it that the vast majority of the MSM, college Profs, etc, are libs?"
It puzzled me for years until it dawned on me - it was while I was doing investigative reporting for a statewide paper. I found that even thought the stories I did were true and even tho' I made it a rule to talk to both sides of any issue...I didn't like printing anything that hurt anyone, even if guilty.
I went back to editing and writing Home & Family stuff and writing my nostalgia column - positive stuff.
And it dawned on me the MSM was top heavy with libs because libs don't mind stepping on toes or minding other peoples business - indeed, they think they should running everyones business. On the other hand, we conservatives were content to live our lives and let others live theirs.
This, however, gives them the upper hand. They yell the loudest, They get heard.
And so you are totally right: "We have been pushed into a corner for too long. We are starting to PUSH back. And the opposition DOES NOT LIKE IT",
We can only beat them by their own game - fire with fire. Have you noticed how it confuses them?
We did the first summer of the war. The flotsam and jetsam would rally down town for protesting and shouting, burning flags, etc.
So we started our own rallies at the same time - with flags and signs and songs blasting like "Glad to be An American..." - and supporters in traffic would toot for us....the rats couldn't take it. They were totally taken aback and after 2 times, never showed up again.
LOL!!
Why was he not the judge?
YOu are rather amusing..
Please keep going... like I said-- I would ccertainly believe HIM over the judge- the family and the Hospice...
I mean c'mon-- since Kenneth was a Congressional Aid for a DEMOCRAT-- he must be suspect and his Aunt Mae should be refused the chance for medical care- and the Laws of GA should be ignored, and so shouls Mea's Living Will, right?
See-- I will FIGHT FOR ALL LIFE! REPUB-- DEM--LIB--GREEN PARTY--YOU NAME IT-- EVEN YOURS!
If I am a fool-- SO BE IT! Rather be a fool with a woman alive than a fool for doubting her nephew to death.
Maybe I should change my nic to Foolish eeevil conservative...
Man, am I glad I'm an Australian, an old lady has been moved from a hospice where we have learned through the sad experience of Terri people are 'expected' to die - to a hospital where she will receive the treatment she requires - and someone who joined FR on April 9 is telling us (THE HORROR) the relative who brought this into the open might be a DEMOCRAT!
What more proof do you require that this issue surpasses politics?
are you still on that??
I talked to the judge!
YES-- THE FAMILY CAME TO aN AGREEMENT!
Yes they did!
But then- the dern doctors didn't get their crap together!
That was decided on MONDAY!
What are we supposed to do? what was Ken supposed to do?
He waited until WEDNESDAY to get the word out!
That was all reported here!
Wherre have you been??
Plus-- the judge should have acted on the Living WIll-- once in HIS COURT-- HE IS THE ONE THAT SHOULD HAVE ACTED.
Now you are just boring me.
This is irrefutable, mathematic fact.
Nonsense. There are societies that have existed apart from each other for over 1,000 years. The members of such societies would have no common ancenstors within the previous 33 generations.
However, I may not have a different point of view than you regarding this issue. I did not put a pro-life spin on my post. What I am worried about is the long term ramifications of these rulings. We can debate life or death situations and that is fine but the Fed has stepped in and dictated a line for us all. I am speaking about the judiciary.
I would not insult you my friend. When we have arguments here in FR both sides are trying to come to the truth. That is the true purpose of debate, don't you think?
Thanks for the reply man!
Arioch7 out.
sounds like , in his/her post regarding info - that there's going to be a lot of butt covering in LaGrange.
If the Hospice admitted her as 'terminal" (which is what hospices are for - and if not terminal, they are not legally admitted...plus they evidently took the granddaughters word that she had medical POA, without verifying,)
- the newspaper may be pressured to cool things down so's the town doesn't take a hit...etc., All in all, it would seem the judge in this case was not a 'greer' - even tho he may have granted temp. guardianship - he added a stipulated order that she was to receive food, water and needed medical care (Hospices are not equipped to give the heart care Mae needs - since you are there to be eased in your dying process. And the judge would not have had reason to add this stipulation if she WAS being given food, water, etc - he had to order it. So I think the judge may be a good guy and in the clear
got that right, mate.
crosses all lines: political, religious, racial
Did she "refuse" her eyedrops and deliberately become blind, as well?
"Hospice" is a joke.
33 generations go back more than 1000 yrs. Just where did those society members come from - their ancestors were who?
Just ONE pair of common ancestors, out of countless thousands, would result in millions of descendants by now...as the numbers more than double each generation coming back this way.
I have lines traced back well over a thousand years -
You know
I talked to him-- and he was VERY NICE!
We laughed, I told him I was real nerd-- LOL!
He talked to me about his daughter-- etc..
I think he could have made better decisions- but there is NO DOUBT THAT HE IS NO JUDGE GREER!
NO WAY!
Terri's case was so different than most. It is a shame that when we take up a cause for someone and we express that a judge or family is wrong- then automatically we are accused of trying to paint them as a Greer or Felos or Michael Schiavo..
Mind you-- some will. Some will do that. There are NUTZ on both sides- no doubt!
I think the REAL tragedy- other than a family at odds- is that these doctors didn't act. I am sure the HEAT to all the others rolled onto them. I sure hope so. The judge even ruled that these doctors were supposed to figure this out in 24 hours!
I also have to say-- this is NOT a party issue. NOT AT ALL!
It is nice to see people be able to come together on something for once. VERY NICE!
I am not going to say I think the judge is not a smooth talker-- I think he is. But I will be honest-- He was very nice. He talked to me the minute I called. No wait-- was very nice and forthcoming-- the Hopsice was another story.. the woman I talked to was SCARED.
Just glad that Mae has a chance. Think about it-- SHE got OUT of HOSPICE-- ALIVE!
HOW COOL!
Thanks for the music and ping!
What I am telling you is that there was no controversy to begin with. Mae was never in danger of starving to begin with. Ken is using you to make political hay.
I believe he is exploiting your beliefs. I'm telling you something in this story stinks and I'm not the only one who believes that.
http://www.hospicepatients.org/terri-schiavo-10-12-02-press-rel.html
(snip)
Hospice Patients Alliance Blasts Hospice Agencies
That Terrorize the Chronically Disabled
by Ron Panzer, President HPA
GRAND RAPIDS, MI - October 15, 2002 - Terri Schiavo currently is being held in a Pinellas County Florida hospice that is not licensed to provide care for the chronically ill. Terri Schiavo is a non-terminal disabled patient with brain damage. Terri's own treating physician, Dr. Vincent Gambone, testified before the court,saying "her condition is one that there is no recovery. The damage that is done to the brain is not repairable."1 However, the chronically disabled are by definition not going to recover completely. These are not terminal patients, and the disabled can live many years so long as they are not intentionally killed.
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I will FIGHT FOR ALL LIFE! REPUB-- DEM--LIB--GREEN PARTY--YOU NAME IT-- EVEN YOURS!
I second that motion! AMEN
But I bet there's some lawyers with hefty retainers right now in LaGrange! The Hospice is right to be 'scared"
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