Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin
Terri Schiavo was not the first, nor will she be the last person euthanized in this country. One day we will see just as many adults being euthanized as we see children being aborted.
people who think there even needs to be a "reasoned and rational" debate about whether to kill an innocent woman by dehydration and/or starvation speaks volumes about how these people view life.
some people believe it's vital to stop courts who sympathize with the "death activists". it's ok for some people to sit by and engage in "reasoned and rational" discussion until it's someone they love that's being killed. then what will they do ?
People offer remarks without any attribution to the source or a link to a document.
A year ago, you'd have been skewered for trying to argue that way on Free Republic.
Here's the update:
I don't think this is a hoax. I called the court, gave them the case number, and was able to verify that it is in regards to Mae's estate, but could not get any more info from the woman I spoke to because she didn't know the details. She told me I'd have to speak to Judge Boyd and that he won't be in until 8:00 am tomorrow.
So, Court CASE NUMBER: Estate 138-05 is on record there, and the clerk knew who I was talking about when I mentioned Mae Magouirk's name. The clerk did not know the status of the case or whether or not Beth Gaddy was still Mae's medical power-of-attorney. She did say something about the case being settled yesterday, although I don't know if that means the family won and had the tube reinserted or if Beth Gaddy won and Mae is still starving. I asked if the reason the case had been "settled" was because the patient had already died, and she said, "No".
I called the hospice, but when I mentioned Mae's name, I was immediately transfered to someone who did not pick up the phone. I got her voicemail and left a message. I doubt she will call me back, and I doubt I'll get anything but her voicemail if I call her again.
Another FReeper on this thread said that he/she was able to get through, though, and was told that Mae is in fact a patient there.
I called the attorney's office, and the receptionist told me that she couldn't talk about the case. I told her I was just calling to verify its existence. She still wouldn't talk, but when I mentioned that this was regarding a press release and mentioned the Mullinax name (Mae's sister), she said something to the effect of: "that's the family, our office didn't send out a press release". Then, she told me to email the attorney if I had any questions, and gave me his email address.
I tried to call the family (I have the original press release with all the phone numbers), but the sister's phone rang without anyone picking it up, and the brother's phone number was his work number. He was not there, and the person who answered said, "I don't want to talk about that. He'll be in tomorrow at 7:00 am. Call back tomorrow." I didn't push the matter, because I did not want to cause Mae's brother any trouble at work.
Now, I intend to email the attorney. I will let you know what he says.
Good sleuthing. Keep us posted.
From: "Leslie Tignor" Date: April 4, 2005 1:04:55 PM PDT To: "Leslie Tignor" Subject: Urgent need for potential adoptive family
Nick Silverio of Safe Haven for Newborns in Florida has asked that we spread the word of a disabled newborn in need of adoption.
The child, born today, has no arms, only one leg, and is missing a good portion of his jaw - but his prognosis is good. The baby was abandoned by his mother under the Florida Safe Haven law and, unless potential adoptive parents can be found, quickly, the child will become a ward of the state (and, it is feared, the target of euthanasia). The Florida Department of Children and Families will not become involved unless information is obtained that may suggest some type of abuse or neglect (which is not evident at this time). Catholic Charities in Florida is not currently able to assist with adoption services.
Please forward this information on to any agency, organization or individual that may be able to assist in locating interested potential adoptive parents.
Nick's cell phone number is 786-246-1304 and the his web site is www.asafehavenfornewborns.com
It has been my experience in the very recent past that adoptive parents for disabled infants have been found through the efforts of pro-life people who simply made the need known via e-mail.
Please pray for this baby and his biological mother as well.
Thanks!
Leslie Tignor Director, Associate Program American Life League ltignor@all.org 540-659-4171 888-546-2580
"A year ago, you'd have been skewered for trying to argue that way on Free Republic."
You got that right! LOL
If by this time you have not seen the overwhelming clear and convincing evidence, you are not only blind, but you don't *wish* to see. Poor excuse you're citing there...it doesn't fly. Argue the case before the Lord one day, it's not anyone here you need to convince.
I don't know who you're arguing with, but your post certainly doesn't respond to anything I wrote.
Did you see this?
I received this email today. I don't know what to make of it but it really scares me that they would even consider killing this little baby:
From: "Leslie Tignor" Date: April 4, 2005 1:04:55 PM PDT To: "Leslie Tignor" Subject: Urgent need for potential adoptive family
Nick Silverio of Safe Haven for Newborns in Florida has asked that we spread the word of a disabled newborn in need of adoption.
The child, born today, has no arms, only one leg, and is missing a good portion of his jaw - but his prognosis is good. The baby was abandoned by his mother under the Florida Safe Haven law and, unless potential adoptive parents can be found, quickly, the child will become a ward of the state (and, it is feared, the target of euthanasia). The Florida Department of Children and Families will not become involved unless information is obtained that may suggest some type of abuse or neglect (which is not evident at this time). Catholic Charities in Florida is not currently able to assist with adoption services.
Please forward this information on to any agency, organization or individual that may be able to assist in locating interested potential adoptive parents.
Nick's cell phone number is 786-246-1304 and the his web site is www.asafehavenfornewborns.com
It has been my experience in the very recent past that adoptive parents for disabled infants have been found through the efforts of pro-life people who simply made the need known via e-mail.
Please pray for this baby and his biological mother as well.
Thanks!
Leslie Tignor Director, Associate Program American Life League ltignor@all.org 540-659-4171 888-546-2580
I wonder if the granddaughter of Mae stands to benefit if the woman dies?
And notice that the matter is being handled by a probate judge.
The story says the g.d. misrepresented her status to make such a decision...that she is not Mae's closest living relative and she does not have POA in terms of her healthcare. Yet, it also says the judge agrees with her judgement to starve Mae, and thinks that she should become Mae's court-apponted guardian...by him, of course.
Could the judge be in on some kind of scheme to financially benefit from the death of persons such as Mae? (Think Judge Greer and the lack of guardianship case oversight in Pinellas county, and some suspicious incidences there, leading to strong concerns that something is very wrong...)
Ya know, maybe we should tell Senator Frist, because he thinks the Courts are doing a "fair job".
When I find out about this, I will likely ping the whole list.
:-(
That is the first I've seen of that. Was that the same baby that was discarded a few weeks ago? Why is Catholic Charities not able to assist with adoption services? That doesn't make sense. I will forward this on.
I received the email about the baby from a friend who is disabled. What on earth is happening?! Florida again. But of course I'm afraid this is happening all over the world. Human life is so cheap. God help us in these last days.
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We can always count on you to fight that impulse.
Everyone who's not a member seems to know.
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