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1 posted on 03/31/2005 6:34:21 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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Dixie travel guide suggestions


2 posted on 03/31/2005 6:36:07 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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MOC and the White House right next door of course. Hollywood cemetary, heck Richmond and the surrounding area is a trip in and of itself. :)

Parking is difficult around the MOC. I had to park in the hospital parking lot but worth it. Enjoyed the White House most of all...

3 posted on 03/31/2005 6:45:44 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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Wish I could go,a little history for the trip.

Lincoln’s "House Divided" speech re-enactment -- Springfield,IL(Click to watch)

9 posted on 03/31/2005 6:52:32 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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Fredericksburg,Antitum (sp) and especially Gettysburg.


14 posted on 03/31/2005 6:58:41 PM PST by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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Can't recall the name, but about 7 years ago took a group of RAF guys for a tour. Set it up for the horseback tour (private company). They were OUTSTANDING. They had a diorama presentation and then took you for a ride on horseback as you toured the battlefields. Very impressive and VERY moving.
15 posted on 03/31/2005 6:58:47 PM PST by Gunrunner2
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Chancellorsville - even though the location of the decisive flank attack is not part of the park.

And the nearby Stonewall Jackson Shrine - the small house where Jackson came to his final rest; it's very moving.

I see TN is not on your list. I echo that Franklin is interesting. Most of the battlefield is gone, but the Carter House at the center of the battle is well-preserved and has a museum and video presentation. The Carter son was in the Army of Tennessee and mortally wounded in his old back yard. The Confederate cemetery (maintained by the SCV) is a short drive away. The graves are laid out by State. The cemetery inspired Allan Tate's "Ode to the Confederate Dead."

Shiloh is one of my favorite battlefield/parks, but it is in the middle of nowhere - maybe that's why it is so well preserved.

18 posted on 03/31/2005 7:03:26 PM PST by Martin Tell (Red States Rule)
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Beware of "PC" tour interpretations! Hope you have a good trip.


19 posted on 03/31/2005 7:38:38 PM PST by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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Antietam and Monocacy in Maryland are pretty good, also recommend Chancellorsville.


20 posted on 03/31/2005 7:55:20 PM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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Park your car at a train/metro lot outside of DeeCee and take the light-train or Metro into Union Station and start your tour of DeeCee from there. You can catch a bus tour that makes stops at various places. Treasury Building, all the Smithsonian, go to the Zoo, and Arlington Cemetery.

Before you go, write your Congressperson for tickets to the White House tour (and don't be late or they won't let you in). It's a complete hassle to get into the Capitol, but go anyway, and you may need tickets for that, too. DeeCee is totally amazing. Walk to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial and then down the "V" and out. You can feel the sadness -- I can't take the walk without ending up in tears.

And if you can get up the Washington Monument -- do that, too. Gotta take the elevator now as they won't let you walk up or down. And walk around the Lincoln Memorial and the Jefferson Memorial. DeeCee is awesome.

When I was a kid -- 45 years ago -- dark ages, I think -- a teen friend and I would take the bus from home to Annapolis and from there to DeeCee. Then we'd walk around like we were not tourists and laugh at the men in Bermuda shorts and black sox half way up their calves, cameras around their necks. One time, we were on the little 'train' between the Old Senate office building and the Capitol and Senator Margaret Chase Smith (of Maine) was two cars in front of us. Then at the Capitol, we walked from Senate Gallery to House Gallery and back again. On our way out, Edward R Murrow walked down the steps close enough that I could have reached out and touched him.

You can't do that any more in DeeCee. The Inauguration Parade was enough of a nightmare for me. But I'll be back, since it's "nearly home" for me.

Where ever you go, enjoy and take lots of photos.
21 posted on 03/31/2005 7:57:46 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (God have mercy on America. God have mercy on us all.)
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There is not a whole lot in Baltimore itself, but the museum at President Street Station is worth a visit. It is a bit on the PC side, but does tell the story of the first casualties in the War Between the States - civilians in Baltimore shot by Massachusetts infantrymen. Also, it is quite close to the Inner Harbor which is a good spot to stop for shopping and dining.

The other notable attraction in Baltimore is Ft. McHenry. Although it is best known as the location where Francis Scott Key wrote "The Star Spangled Banner" during the War of 1812, it was also used as a prison during the WBTS. One of the people unconstitutionally imprisoned there was Francis Key Howard, FSK's grandson.

As to Gettysburg - The first place I always take someone who has never been there is the Electric Map in the Visitors Center. That is the best way to get yourself oriented and get a picture of where you are on the battlefield. The horseback tours are from the Artillery Ridge Campground and are quite good. However, you can also pick up a cassette to guide you on a driving tour for next to nothing that does an outstanding job
23 posted on 03/31/2005 8:56:34 PM PST by RebelBanker (To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!)
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Any insight, experiences, and suggestions would be helpful

Nothing here except to say I'm turning a lovely shade of green.

One word for when you return home...PICTURES!


24 posted on 03/31/2005 9:41:32 PM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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After visiting Sharpsburg go the extra 3 or 4 miles (Lee's retreat route) into Shepherdstown, WV. The town is wonderful and hasn't changed much since the war. In addition please check out Elmwood Cemetery, about a half mile out of town. There's a Confederate Soldiers section that you'll find very interesting (I certainly did). Many war notables are interred there as well.

This is a side trip well worth the time. BTW the town is a super place to grab lunch or dinner in. I never miss the opportunity to stop there when I'm in the vicinity.

A Yankee, but Confederate at heart!

26 posted on 03/31/2005 10:33:02 PM PST by Rabble (Just When is John F sKerry going to sign SF 180?.......... Will we live long enough?)
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Postscript to Post# 26.

If you visit Elmwood Cemetery be sure to pick up a brochure which is located just inside the main gate, on the right, in a waterproof box. This has a map showing where the notables are buried. Enjoy!

27 posted on 03/31/2005 10:38:43 PM PST by Rabble (Just When is John F sKerry going to sign SF 180?.......... Will we live long enough?)
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Oh. . .my Post 15 was for Gettysburg, PA.


29 posted on 04/01/2005 4:15:10 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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Definitely go to Petersburg!

You'll understand the strategy (and tactics!) of the last half of the war.

Seeing the groups of bullets that hit each in midair, and were recovered still smashed together is awe-inspiring: It shows just how dangerous, how many bullets were flying at un-armored people out there.

Also, it's sobering to see how closely the Petersburg battle field trenches and tunnel resemble WWI trenches.
31 posted on 04/01/2005 6:01:19 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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Don't know if it's been menitoned, but Manassas (known to the North as Bull Run). It's quite beautiful.


32 posted on 04/01/2005 6:02:55 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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Petersburg and Chancellorsville are must visits.

In fact you can get to most of the battlefields in Northern VA in one day. You won't be able to spend time at all of them, but you can definately drive to all of them.


33 posted on 04/01/2005 6:05:09 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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I traveled to visit Gettysburg and Antietam in 1993. My suggestions are as follows.

1. Fly, to reduce travel time, but avoid Dulles like the plague. Fly to Baltimore and rent your wheels there. Take a radar detector in your luggage but don't use it in DC or Virginia unless you've got the latest, sneakiest kind -- they like to confiscate them.

2. Book ahead places to sleep near the big battlefields, using regional travel guides. You'll appreciate the rest at the end of the day -- or at the start of the next.

3. Leave plenty of time for sleep so you can enjoy your visit more.

4. Shorten your stays in Virginia (the state seems fussier and more expensive, and there is something about it I don't care for.....some survival of that old deferential-society ethos, with you being expected to do the deferring), and don't sleep in the big cities.

5. Try to visit the Crater at Petersburg -- it's still there.

6. Try to line up some maps that show routes followed by Lee -- for example, where he crossed the Potomac, and his route up into Maryland and Pennsylvania.

7. Comfy shoes, of course, and plenty of cold water. You'll find Antietam very, very quiet, even in August, and much closer to its original state than Gettysburg, so you might plan accordingly, following your preferences in such things. I personally drove Lee's Maryland Campaign route, crossing the gaps at South Mountain where Lee did (of course, there are modern roads there), and you'll find road markers -- e.g. showing where Rodes's brigade got lost on South Mountain and blundered out of position in the woods while deploying along the ridge. You'll be able to stand in the gaps, map in hand, and see what Lee and Jackson did, and why. Eventually I drove down to Antietam via Keedysville, just like Lee did.

8. If you can do it at all, try to get to Chancellorsville. I still haven't visited there. The area, as you know is a "three-fer", with battles in 1862 (Fredericksburg), 1863 (Chancellorsville), and 1864 (the Wilderness); and Spottsylvania is close by to the south.

Good luck with your tour!

35 posted on 04/01/2005 6:58:01 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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Heck, you can work your way down from Baltimore and take in a ton of stuff. They can go over and hit Antietam first, then Bull Run.

The battlefields around Richmond (Malvern Hill, Five Forks, Cold Harbor), Fredericksburg (Chancellorsville, the Wilderness), and Petersburg (Drewry's Bluff, the Crater) are all pretty scattered geographically. Each of those three National Battlefields has a separate visitor's center. Richmond's is a little hard to get to, but it's in a neat spot on Chimberazo Hill.

They should absolutely not miss Hollywood Cemetary in Richmond. Believe it or not, my first "date" with the lovely and talented Foxfire4, my wife, was a visit to Hollywood Cemetary. The Confederate section of the cemetary is not well-kept up and occasionally vandalized due to the neighborhood it's in, but still, the monument to Pickett's Charge near Pickett's grave, and some of the other monuments in the section, are worth seeing. It's also the final resting place of J.E.B. Stuart, Presidents Monroe and Tyler, and Jeff Davis. Davis has the best seat in the house, I think...his gravesite overlooks the James River with a beautiful view.

Virginia has put up some road signs heading west toward Appomattox from Richmond/Petersburg that mark the route of Lee's retreat to Appomattox. Your friends might want to follow those through places like Amelia Courthouse, and wind up at Appomattox. I grew up 25 miles from there in Amherst, and went several times on school trips; it's a great place.

Oh, and if they get over into the Shenendoah Valley (which they should do anyway, just because it's one of the greatest places in the world!), they can visit New Market and Cedar Creek and trace some of the spots from the Valley Campaign.

}:-)4


37 posted on 04/01/2005 7:56:05 AM PST by Moose4 (So how long will it take Hunter S. Thompson to figure out he's dead and not on an acid trip?)
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Gettysburg -- Good choice. Army of the Potomac kicked some rebel booty at that one.

Antietam -- another good choice. Lee killed any chance for rebel recognition from any of the European powers by blowing it at that one. A nice car trip would be to follow the path of the rebel army as it slunk back south.

Washington, D.C. -- take in the Lincoln Memorial. Visit the Ulysses Grant Memorial on Capitol Hill and the William T. Sherman statue by the White House and the Phillip Sheridan statue in Sheridan Circle. Swing by the Congressional Cemetery where you can visit the grave of David Herold of Lincoln assasination conspiracy fame. Don't forget Arlington Cemetary to visit what used to be Lee's house. Visit the Senate chamber where the senior Senator from Mississippi uses the same desk that Jefferson Davis uses. If you can get close enough you can see the repairs made to it after Union soldiers stuck bayonets in it. Visit the National Cathedral where Lincoln's address to the people of Springfield is carved into the wall.

Enjoy.

41 posted on 04/03/2005 4:46:46 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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