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I Will Never Forgive Them For Terri. Never. (The hell with forgiveness and finding common ground.)
Self | 3.31.05 | JohnRobertson

Posted on 03/31/2005 7:49:04 AM PST by John Robertson

A very good Freeper has another thread going on right now, called "Let's End the Rancor." I started to respond, and realized...my RANCOR ain't going away any time soon. So....

NO! I will never forgive them.

I will never forgive the death cabal that forsook common decency and Judeo-Christian principles, and made a Never-give-in stand just to give those who embrace life grief, tension and tortured, sleepless nights.


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To: Petronski

Still, where did Jesus say "forgive those who persecute and murder others"?


121 posted on 03/31/2005 8:48:12 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: teenyelliott

Okay. God bless.


122 posted on 03/31/2005 8:48:34 AM PST by John Robertson
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To: Petronski

Well, I asked for it, didn't I? (By the way, I knew you'd come up with it.)

Do me a favor. Read post 86.


123 posted on 03/31/2005 8:50:02 AM PST by John Robertson
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To: Iron Eagle
Florida law made the husband the guardian.

This, in my opinion, is the crux of the matter. Judge Greer failed to enforce numerous state statutes regarding guardianship status of the husband. The existing law is adequate but what good is law if it is ignored by the judges sworn to apply it? If guardianship had been transferred to the parents this case would have had a totally different outcome.

124 posted on 03/31/2005 8:50:08 AM PST by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: John Robertson

Dennis Prager's article is very concise and articulate. I remember reading it when it was posted a while ago.

Faux forgiveness not only does no good, it does harm.


125 posted on 03/31/2005 8:50:15 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: John Robertson
I've had about 40 percent replies here asking me to "channel my anger."

If my response inadvertently hurt/offended you, I apologize.

126 posted on 03/31/2005 8:50:32 AM PST by lsee
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To: little jeremiah
Nowhere is it said to tolerate evil done to another.

Agreed.

127 posted on 03/31/2005 8:50:56 AM PST by Petronski (Choose life.)
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To: lsee

No need. It's a day of high emotion.

Please read post 86. Thanks.


128 posted on 03/31/2005 8:51:18 AM PST by John Robertson
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To: John Robertson
I pity them. Trite, yes... but true.

129 posted on 03/31/2005 8:51:29 AM PST by AnnaZ (::: I Thessalonians 4:13-18 :::)
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To: John Robertson

I find it a little disturbing that so many have a serious misunderstaning about forgiveness.

Another point is that one can sorrow for an evil doer and still be righteously angry at him. And even pray for him.


130 posted on 03/31/2005 8:52:22 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: little jeremiah

"Another point is that one can sorrow for an evil doer and still be righteously angry at him. And even pray for him."

Wish I had included that sentiment in my original post--it would have saved some confusion.


131 posted on 03/31/2005 8:53:10 AM PST by John Robertson
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To: little jeremiah

Or haul him out and garrot him.


132 posted on 03/31/2005 8:53:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: John Robertson

I knew you meant it anyway. How could you not?


133 posted on 03/31/2005 8:54:15 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: Paul_B

"Forgive them, Father; they know not what they do."

Yup.

You'll see who is a believer and who is not.

Tossing His words aside, tells me about the person and what their beliefs really are ... pride ... their will and not His will ... .



134 posted on 03/31/2005 8:54:23 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AnnaZ

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!


135 posted on 03/31/2005 8:54:50 AM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
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To: muawiyah

WHILE hauling him out and garroting him.


136 posted on 03/31/2005 8:54:53 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: nmh

"Another point is that one can sorrow for an evil doer and still be righteously angry at him. And even pray for him."

Quoting littlejeremiah.

Please read post 86.


137 posted on 03/31/2005 8:55:59 AM PST by John Robertson
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To: muawiyah

I don't know.


I have always tried to live by this maxim, in Matthew 6:

14 For if you will forgive men their offences, your heavenly Father will forgive you also your offences.

15 But if you will not forgive men, neither will your Father forgive you your offences.


138 posted on 03/31/2005 8:57:28 AM PST by Petronski (Choose life.)
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To: John Robertson
It's not up to us to forgive.....but I will never forget.

I am comforted knowing Terri is in Gods loving arms now, free of pain, and knows how many people were praying for her and her family. She may not have quite understood as she suffered.....the why of the last two weeks, but she knows all now.

139 posted on 03/31/2005 8:58:22 AM PST by AirForceMom
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To: John Robertson; little jeremiah; muawiyah
This PC blanket forgiveness happened recently with the Jessica Lundsford case. From this article posted at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1366942/posts

At Jessica's church on Sunday, the pastor asked for prayers for the Lunsfords.

"Lord, we don't always understand your ways," the Rev. William LaVerle Coats told 175 grieving people during services at Faith Baptist Church, where many people saw the girl for the last time on the night she disappeared. "We accept what has taken place here, and ask that you would give us some peace."

Coats asked churchgoers to forgive Couey. Jessica's father said he may have a hard time with that request. "He needs to stand up and be a man now and take his death penalty," Mark Lunsford said.

I don't know how I would have reacted had that been my child. I think I would have had to tell someone off and left.

muawiyah--The "big" word you gave me earlier I think fits into the "Lord, we don't understand your ways" quote.

140 posted on 03/31/2005 9:00:52 AM PST by beaversmom
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