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The Terri Wellstone Memorial [FReeper Rant]

Posted on 03/29/2005 1:59:49 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I didn't call you a bushbot.

I had assumed you looked at my profile page

My mistake .. sorry

41 posted on 03/29/2005 4:10:01 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Randi Papadoo

100 a day? I don't believe that. Maybe people are pulled off ventilators, but you don't remove feeding tubes quite so cavalierly.

Amazing.


42 posted on 03/29/2005 4:13:44 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Mo1

"I'm a Bushbot ... Deal with it !"

Ha! You just think you are. You support Bush, but I believe it is with open eyes. Actually, that's how I am. I do not want him or his brother to step down, rest assured.

FReegards....


43 posted on 03/29/2005 4:15:31 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Mo1

This Jeb APPENDIX TO ANSWER BRIEF OF AMICUS,
GORDON WAYNE WATTS in 2003
http://hometown.aol.com/gww1210/myhomepage/AppendixWATTS_SC04-925.doc

these Humanist must have changed some laws from that time

In the 90's my landlord had "replaced windows" call MCI he was paid per rm in those days there was this definiton of what is a room establish in 1929 my building is 1928 so since I had a studio it was one room.

last year another MCI for "pointing the building" again he was paid per rm during that time they have gotten the wording and definiton changed so now my studio is consided two rooms btw nothing has changed in my apt!

My point is what did the "Global Ethic Humanist" get changed in that document?


44 posted on 03/29/2005 4:19:38 AM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: restornu
My point is what did the "Global Ethic Humanist" get changed in that document?

I have no clue

45 posted on 03/29/2005 4:32:29 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Some people may wonder, is this 'spurious Bush bashing'? Well, I never said that the Bush family was part of the problem. All I said is that they broke one lance on the shield of death and left the field. Heck, I was holding back my punches.

Yes, you did hold back your punches.

On another subject, if I may:

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There was a story that I ran across (I thought it was from Newsmax) yesterday in hours and hours on the net. I cannot find it for the life of me today.

It was a story explaining how Terri and the Schindlers were outgunned early on by Michael's high priced lawyers, they were beaten by the lawyers from the very beginning of litigation. It mentioned that the Schindlers even had a hard time finding a lawyer to take their case (vecause of money), and when they did, the lawyer was not real familiar with the "end of life" law, and was spun in circles by Felos.

Can anyone remember what thread that was? I'm dying to read it again. I went to Newsmax and can't find it today.

Help!

46 posted on 03/29/2005 4:33:13 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Randi Papadoo
How appropriate to call this 'Terri Wellstone Memorial', after the embarrassing fiasco that was Senator Paul Wellstone's funeral. The 'I have come here not to praise Wellstone, but to ask that you all vote Democratic.' spectacle showed what happens when fanatics abandon the an individual who suffered a tragedy, and warp them into a rabble rousing media circus.

It's clear why it has become such a national media event, as well. It was a deeply personal tragedy, mixed with sinister seeming relatives, adultery, legal nuance, medical issues, political intrigue, and more. It's like mixing great episodes of ER, Law and Order, and the West Wing, and letting the audience play along.

People want to believe in the conspiracy. They want to believe that wild judges are tossing out the law and murdering people. They want to believe that the government is wrong and the doctors are wrong and that Terri is just misdiagnosed, and that feeding tubes aren't removed a hundred times a day in America. People are swept up in the crusade, and feel like they're part of something.

It sound's good. Moral indignation is intoxicating. FR is getting hammered on it, and the binge is insane.

There are a lot of issues here that we as a society need to discuss. I personally don't think they should have removed the tube without the parents consent, or another medical review. It seems to me that if there should be more leeway given towards life. But what I personally think isn't the law.

People believe that the death penalty is murder, and that Iraq is a murderous aggression of innocents, and they vote against it, and oppose it through legal means. Would Free Republic support them and their moral compasses if they were to start breaking the law to oppose what they felt was murder, a murder supported by their tax dollars and good name? We can change our laws, and often do, but it does no good to change them if we become a lawless people.

47 posted on 03/29/2005 4:38:34 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Try new Free Republic Lite! - Lite on reason, but with 1000% more hyperbole!)
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To: beyond the sea; Scoop 1

A wild stab, I would think of the Empire Journal. I know that Michael had added legal muscle by dipping into her medical fund, and the Empire Journal did an excellent job of looking into that. I'll try a google on it. FReegards....


48 posted on 03/29/2005 4:46:13 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I do not want him or his brother to step down, rest assured

Good thing .. or I'd have to dye my hair blue again .. j/k :0)

49 posted on 03/29/2005 4:52:07 AM PST by Mo1
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To: Steel Wolf

Your post is thought provoking, while I respectfully disagree with parts of it.

"We can change our laws, and often do, but it does no good to change them if we become a lawless people."

What do you expect when someone's inalienable right was violated by the law? When the law is the very foe of what it was made to stand for, the law becomes a joke.

As for conspiracy theories, it's the ones who think the law is righteous on this that are the tin foil conspiracy theorists. The amount of evidence and number of witnesses blocked by the law to ensure her gruesomely slow starvation is overwhelming.

Taking out this much time to treasure a human life and to feel pain for a mourning family is not typical in US history or this forum. No worries. We'll get back to the 'big picture' soon enough. In fact, you are free to do that right now. FReegards....


50 posted on 03/29/2005 4:55:05 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: beyond the sea

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1372730/posts


51 posted on 03/29/2005 4:57:33 AM PST by Mo1
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To: beyond the sea

Everything about funding on google seems, at first glance, to be at the Empire Journal...

http://www.theempirejournal.com

FReegards....


52 posted on 03/29/2005 5:08:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

You're a good man!


53 posted on 03/29/2005 6:49:18 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Mo1; Peach
God.......... that's the thread! Thank you very much!

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Isn't it sickening that apparently this dear innocent girl died because of a husband who turned evil on her, and because of unable and inexperienced lawyers? (And the sicko husband decided to put to sleep her two cats when she was in the hospital ---- knowing that she adored all animals! --- what a PIG!)

This entire event has been disgusting, depressing and embarrassing.......... for the politicians who failed to find their backbones to save her. Yes, that includes those Bushes...... sorry to say.

The politicians' spines were like spider silk waving in the wind.

Thanks again for the thread!

54 posted on 03/29/2005 7:09:53 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Mo1; holdonnow

My point is what did the "Global Ethic Humanist" get changed in that document?

I have no clue

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It would take someone who is a lawyer friend to the US to cut through brief of the last encouter with the apellet courts (mar.2005) Jeb and Greer and see what they did to get the verdict changed!

I would like to find out if this Medical Examiner doing the autopsy is from one of those Ethic school of thought?


55 posted on 03/29/2005 8:10:19 AM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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To: restornu

"Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God."

That's some tagline. FReegards....


56 posted on 03/29/2005 9:03:44 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Good points.


57 posted on 03/29/2005 9:04:03 AM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: TigersEye

"Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?"

Another great tagline. FReegards....


58 posted on 03/29/2005 9:08:09 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thank you!


59 posted on 03/29/2005 9:44:56 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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Now this is errie to me I did not high the word Ethic in yellow!

How did that happen?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1372873/posts?page=55#55


60 posted on 03/29/2005 9:51:47 AM PST by restornu (Do ye suppose that mercy can rob justice? I say nay; not one whit. If so, God would cease to be God.)
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