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To: -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

You are in control, Terri's mistake was not to have one!

2 posted on 03/26/2005 6:14:45 PM PST by bubman
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To: bubman
You are in control, Terri's mistake was not to have one!

But we all know that judges can make their own law, can ignore federal subpoenas, can order a state governor around, so even if you do have one, you must remember, "we are a nation of laws," and judges tell us what both the law is and what the constitution means, so the moral of the story is make sure you always do exactly what the judge tells you to do, even if you are at the head of one of the three main branches of government.

Bush should have taken Greer away in irons. He would have been a folk and national hero by now if he had.
15 posted on 03/26/2005 6:27:31 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: bubman
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

You've forgotten the first judicial rule, written by the Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland. "A word shall mean exactly what I say it shall mean, nothing more". Just because you wrote it down in plain English doesn't mean that a judge can't interpret in the way he wants. They're so much smarter and superior to us, you know.

17 posted on 03/26/2005 6:28:58 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: bubman
"A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!"

They denied due process of "Existing Law" already. The courts are not just judges anymore, they are the law makers and definers. They have supreme power over the Legislative and Executive Branches of Federal, State, County and City Gov't by fiat. What is true today does not, by any means, that they will not change in the future. How many laws have already been overturned by the "Almighty Judges" just this century? Unless the Executive and Legislative Branches of Gov't reign in this usurping of lawmaking which was delegated SOLEY to the Legislative Branch of Gov't, ALL of whom are elected BY THE PEOPLE, then this nation will be ruled by tyrannical judges. And depending upon which president is in office, will decide which kind of judiciary will rule the land. President Bush doesn't seem to care very much about his judicial appointments except to put them forward. He should use his powers as POTUS to stop a minority of senators from blocking his judicial nominees. If the Senate can usurp their laws, then president Bush should place his nominees into office by force if necessary, side stepping the U.S. Senate altogether. If the Senate can break Constitutional Law to get what they want, then President Bush should do the same UNTIL the Senate abides by the Constitution which states that the ENTIRE Senate shall vote up or down on ALL of his judicial appointments.

20 posted on 03/26/2005 6:31:05 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: bubman
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

Yes! You can sign a living will and be starved to death on your own say so! Line forms to the left.

21 posted on 03/26/2005 6:33:00 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: bubman
Terri's mistake was not to have one!

That's right, let's all blame Terri. It's become the trend these last couple of days -- she was bulimic, you know, it's all her fault she's where she is. She didn't have a living will, you know, it's all her fault she's being starved to death.

25 posted on 03/26/2005 6:38:51 PM PST by workerbee
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To: bubman
"A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!"

But, judge, I was told by her, just before she lost consciousness, that she defenitely didn't want to live like this, and that what she wrote in her living will didn't include this kind of circumstance, so please, judge, do as my wife asks, and order that her feeding tube be removed. NEWSFLASH: Judge Euthanasia Hemlock has ordered that the feeding tube be removed from Ms Life, as her last verbal will to her husband now usurps her former written living will. I have spoken, and so it will be.

30 posted on 03/26/2005 6:42:34 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: bubman

Yeah, right, and when they read your living will the courts will exercise the same sort of 'latitude' by which a federal judge giving a statutory mandate to hear Terri's case de novo used in 'interpreting' the statute as requiring him to do nothing.


32 posted on 03/26/2005 6:43:28 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will understand. . .)
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To: bubman
Re: "You are in control, Terri's mistake was not to have one!"

You are mistaken. If you think an uncontrolled Court will respect your wishes you are living a dream. You get in their way and have someone in your family who wants you dead who is well connected or finds ruthless lawyers and your wishes be dammed.

It is an amazement to me so many do not see this.
36 posted on 03/26/2005 6:45:12 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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To: bubman

Actually, the courts are assuming that Terri's
expressed a verbal-will to her husband!

The only thing a Written "Living Will" would do is
detail her wishes on some (but never possibly all)
circumstances.

The courts are acting as if Terri HAD a "Living Will"
which is really just a document to tell the LIVING
what to do with your DYING Body.


40 posted on 03/26/2005 6:46:32 PM PST by reformjoy (Hillary Haters? Nah, just "Freedom Lovers")
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To: bubman

The lesson of Terri is:

An arbitrary court will not be effectively restrained by the directly elected branches.

That fact puts government in default on its obligation to implement our Constitution.


44 posted on 03/26/2005 6:49:30 PM PST by Tax Government (Withhold hydration from the judicial branch of government. Contribute to FR; that may help.)
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To: bubman

We are on dangerous ground when one has to have a legal document to protect one's right to life in the face of government. Our right to life comes from God. Any state that presumes to take it away has just lost all moral authority.


48 posted on 03/26/2005 6:56:03 PM PST by djreece (May God grant us wisdom.)
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To: bubman

"A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

You are in control, Terri's mistake was not to have one"


If a judge decides you have one, you have one. The knife cuts both ways, if he decides you don't, you don't. When judges are legislating from the bench, anything goes


55 posted on 03/26/2005 7:01:23 PM PST by Figment (Ich bin ein Jesuslander)
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To: bubman
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

For the moment, perhaps. But I have no doubt that soon, very soon, precedents will be set that will allow whatever wishes you may have expressed to be ignored. The slippery slope is, almost universally, inevitable.

63 posted on 03/26/2005 7:05:52 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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"The guardian has no discretion," said Felos. "It is not the guardian's decision to do this. It must be done because it is the order of this court."

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/3/17/74856.html


then
Google for 10 dirty guardianship tricks


80 posted on 03/26/2005 7:18:40 PM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< Impeach Judge Greer http://www.petitiononline.com/ijg520/petition.html)
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To: bubman
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

That's not true, and people need to understand the laws of the state they are living in. Don't just assume that if you write a living will it will be followed. Some states allow a judge to over rule that in certain circumstances.

87 posted on 03/26/2005 7:30:15 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: bubman
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

If the courts ignore a subpoena, ignore a law passed by Congress and signed by the President himself, what is going to make them honor a living will drawn up by a mere citizen?

93 posted on 03/26/2005 7:44:53 PM PST by independentgrrl (The epidemy of the left is institutionalized covetousness.)
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To: bubman; -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
A living will will deny the courts a decision on your fate!

You are in control, Terri's mistake was not to have one!

I'll make sure no one cuts off my water. The effects of dehydration are horrible.

110 posted on 03/26/2005 8:13:26 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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Not true. Under the 1999 Florida law signed by Jeb Bush--created by the cabal that owns the hospice in which Terri is being murdered, a doctor can disregard even the written instructions of a patient who requests care. This business about having written instructions is just Prolefeed--to disguise the fact that involuntary euthanasia is already legal in Florida. Jeb Bush was right: everything that is being done to Terri is according to law. A law he signed in 1999.


113 posted on 03/26/2005 8:31:54 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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