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Vanity | 3/26/05 | Clyde260

Posted on 03/26/2005 1:23:42 PM PST by clyde260

123! 123 Threads in three (3) days! What the heck is going on? I know this is a very important issue to a lot of people, and I too have very striong feelings, but Holy Mackerel! This is embarrassing. Just look at some of these headlines, threads, and vanities.

When I booted up the puter this morning, I was sickened by this thread: "Terri Bleeding From Eyes and Mouth". Would you want this for someone you know? Is this what we FReepers have become? No better than the sesationalistic lamestream press? I can hardly believe this is my beloved, cherished, respected FRee Republic.

This may even serve as a temporary OPUS, until she (unfortunatly) passes. Go ahead and flame me, I can take it, but I hope I made a couple of you stop and think.

Schiavo Parents to Supreme Court: Stop 'Horrible Death'
Religious Groups Rally, Pray for Schiavo
IF JEB BUSH DOEN'T ACT QUICKLY TO SAVE TERRY SCHIAVO, HIS POLLITICAL CARREER IS FINISHED!!


Gen X’s Roe vs. Wade (Terri Schiavo)
Should Terri Schiavo be allowed to die? (letters to the Times (UK)
POL DILEMMA ON 'SURVIVAL' STRATEGIES (new day dawns--Schiavo alerts pro-aborts to medical realities)


Florida intervenes again in Schiavo case
Schiavo Did Not Suffer Her Brain Damage Outside The Hospital--It Occurred While She Was Hospitalized


Is America Broken? (Schiavo case)
Sandwiched between feeding tubes: The lessons [Schiavo]
Schiavo judge's other 'right-to-die' case
FLA Statute 415-1051: The Statute that could still save Terri Schiavo
State Told Not to Enforce Law Protecting Terri Schiavo
Husband, in-laws once were united in caring for Terri (Schiavo)
FR Situation Room: Terri Schindler (/schiavo) in Florida - 01
(Vanity) Another email alert from the wackos at Moveon -- we got to keep tabs on them (Schiavo relat
Michael Schiavo, Loving Husband and Hero of the Liberal Left
Was Terri Schiavo Beaten in 1990?
Vilsack signs meth bill (Not Schiavo)
Michael Schiavo the wife beater
ABC News Poll on Terri Schiavo Case Uses Inaccurate Question
The Suffering of Schiavo: Snatching the Trivial from the Profound
POLL? Who's the villain in the Terri Schiavo case?
Judge Denies Fla. Bid to Take Custody of Schiavo
Freep this Poll - Congressional Intervention in the Terry Schiavo Case
Terri Schiavo: "National Call For Action: Come to Woodside Now - Go To Washington Now..."
Don't sugarcoat what's happening to Terri Schiavo
THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE
U.S. Supreme Court Turns Down Schiavo Case
Becki Snow on a Hunger Strike with Terri Schiavo... a good thief parallel...
Terri Schiavo: An interview with Michael re marriage vows
My Latest Email to Jeb Bush re: Terri Schiavo - Please send yours
U.S. Oversteps In Schiavo Case
Michael Schiavo fights to fulfill wishes
Why Terri Schiavo will die tomorrow, the day Jesus Christ died (stop the satanic ritual murder!!!)
Freep This Poll - Should Terri Schiavo Be Allowed To Die?
What's in a name - Terri Schindler-Schiavo
Andrew McCarthy and Orin Kerr weigh in on Schiavo
Medicaid's role in care of Schiavo gains notice
Joe Scarborough on Terri Schiavo case
Terri Schiavo Shows Signs of Dehydration
Schiavo Case Getting Notice on Good Friday
Terri Schiavo Would Not Be Starved in Israel
Week Just Passed-Steroids/Schiavo; True Crime Book Review; A Tale of 2 Governors
Jeb Bush may take Terri Schiavo into state care
The Schiavo Stakes: What the Fight's Really About
Are you being targeted for euthanasia? (Schiavo case only the tip of the iceberg!)
Schiavo and Christ had similarities in their deaths
In Solomon's Absence - The Schiavo case made bad law and good politics.
Fox News Video - "Former Nurse Alledges That Michael Schiavo Abused Terri"
Deputies: Man Tried to Steal Gun to 'Rescue Terri Schiavo'
confederacy of shamans (Vicious Sid Blumenthal weighs in on Schiavo case)
Looking Beyond Terri (Schiavo)
THE "NO-WATER" CAPITOL HILL GANG (Mug shots of all 58 Congressmen who did not support Terri Schiavo)


A shameless spectacle - Politicians use Schiavo case to push Christian Right’s agenda
Schindlers, Kevorkian Discuss Schiavo Case
ABC's misleading Terri Schiavo poll
The Schiavo case: Bush and Congress trample on science and the Constitution *Socialist Barf*
New legal avenue to challenge Michael Schiavo attempts to cause wife's death!!!
The right to peace - Schiavo’s case reminds me of Rick, who wanted to end his suffering from AIDS
The Terri Schiavo Case: A debate (Lawyers Bill Allen and Wesley Smith discuss the issues)
I Finally Got Someone At Jeb's Office To Take Me Seriously-Re: New Legal Allegations/Schiavo Case
Schiavo Case 'Grotesque' Exercise, Jack Germond Says
Andrea Mitchell on Hardball - Schiavo: 'Starvation' is a Loaded Term
Why Schiavo? Her case not unique: Quinlan, Cruzan and tens of thousands like it
FReep This Poll (Is Terri Schiavo Suffering?)
World divided on ethics of Terri Schiavo case
PURE VANITY: How much will Michael Schiavo & lawyer George Felos score upon Terri's demise?
TESTIMONY of Michael Schiavo malpractice suit against two doctors for misdiagnosing Terri
11th Circuit Denies Appeal (Schiavo)
Not Dead at All, Why Congress was right to stick up for Terri Schiavo.
Man arrested for Michael Schiavo threat
Dems 'Keep Mouths Shut' on Schiavo
Killing Terri Schiavo
What’s God Got to Do with It? (Crapweasels sneer at furor over Terri Schiavo)
Former Adviser Presses Gov. Bush to Launch Criminal Investigation to Save Schiavo
Killing Terri Schiavo: Part II
Daddy, Why are the Courts Trying to Kill Terri Schiavo?
Schiavo Defends Terri's Right-to-Die Book, Movie Rights
TERRI SCHIAVO AND OUR OWN MORTALITY
Schiavo Case Tests GOP Alliances, Priorities
(Vanity) DAMNING TERRI SCHIAVO TO "SAVE" HER?
AP Breaking: Schiavo Parents Won't Fight Court Ruling (11th circuit)
Schiavo parents won't fight U.S. ruling
Media bias in news stories about Terri Schiavo
Michael Schiavo lawyer on board of directors of Terri’s hospice
Terri Schiavo case
Fla. officials' attempt, fail to seize Schiavo
Terri Schiavo polls, fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.
Judge Greer denies Schindler family's last hope to save Terri Schiavo
Rule of Law requires Jeb Bush to Sweep aside Greer's offending Motions in the Terri Schiavo case.
Terri Schiavo - unreported news
A Principled and Fundamental Opposition to the Savage Murder of Terri Schiavo
Leftist Ghouls Poke Fun at Terri Schiavo
The link between Schiavo case and Hitler's rise
Man arrested in alleged Schiavo case murder plot: He offered bounty for judge, Michael Schiavo
Eating Disorder Underlies Schiavo Tragedy
Starving Terri Schiavo is Illegal Assisted Suicide
Michael Schiavo lawyer gave to judge's campaign
If Schiavo Represents U.S. Govt Protection ... who needs it?
Law changed by Hospice where Terri is dying
Will Terri Bring America out of its Coma?
My disappointment in Hugh Hewitt (he criticized calls for Jeb to stand up to Greer and save Terri)
Both Sides are Wrong [in the debate over Terri]
Friend: Terri Often Had Bruises
Doesnt Terri Still Have a Subpoena To Attend Congressional Hearings on March 28?
Ralph Nader and Wesley J. Smith Say "Let Terri Live"
FL "GOP" Sen. Jim King: "Terri better off in Heaven than bed";;I wish Hewitt would get on this guy
Whose Life Is Worth Living? (Terri)
Minister to Jeb Bush: Disobey court order (governor must 'disregard' judge to save Terri)
Koch Says Let Terri Die Peacefully
Prayers for Terri ( from Tom Fitton and Judicial Watch )
The President has all the legal cover he needs to save Terri!!!
AFFADAVIT by NEUROLOGIST who examined Terri
Second Terri Nurse Suspected Abuse
If Terri dies, it will bring jugdement to America.
PRAYERS FOR TERRI.....
Keyes: 'Jeb Bush has the authority' to save Terri
Klayman & Keyes to Ask Gov Bush to Grant "Pardon" to Terri. Keyes: Gov has authority to save Terri
Doctor Says Examination Changed His Mind (Terri may not be PVS, says Mayo Clinic neurologist)
Terri is NOT in PVS (March-23-05 Affidavit of William Cheshire, Jr., MD)
Help Me With Questions Regarding Terri
Terri Bleeding From Eyes and Mouth


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To: clyde260
Who died and made you Jim Robinson??? Nice to see the self appointed PC Cop lecturing on the evils of Free Speech!! And yes I posted a Vanity too!

Pray for W and Terri's Family

121 posted on 03/26/2005 2:24:09 PM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: clyde260

You too Clyde, thanks...


122 posted on 03/26/2005 2:25:13 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: ClancyJ

Some chess master. I've seen threads popping up about him lately. Important news being repressed by all these "boring" threads about government sanctioned murder..


123 posted on 03/26/2005 2:25:32 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: AmericaUnited

See post #112


124 posted on 03/26/2005 2:26:49 PM PST by TheMom (Govern yourself accordingly.)
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To: koba37

Ridiculous.

Must one be a policeman to be credible about his opposition to crime?


125 posted on 03/26/2005 2:27:22 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: k2blader

Oh, ok, see, what did I tell you, you learn on FR.


126 posted on 03/26/2005 2:27:37 PM PST by ClancyJ (The Death Culture Movement - All of us are hosed no matter what we do)
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To: k2blader
Don't fret, an innocent woman will be dead soon enough..

You see, that response is unreasonable. I have participated in these forums for some time and I have, I hope, contributed. Most know me as someone who is civil and I almost never engage in flame wars. But the premise of your statement - that I somehow want, or don't mind, that an innocent woman will die soon - is patently wrong and demonstrates emotional and sloppy thought on your part. I hate, absolutely hate, that she will likely die. I hate it and I pray for her. I simply stated that FR is in an overload mode. I also want to engage in other news....period. So......if you want to attack more, fine. I will not engage - because I suspect that you and I both feel the same about that poor innocent woman.

Lando

127 posted on 03/26/2005 2:28:55 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (How many liberals does it take to win a war?)
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To: clyde260
What's going on with Terri is VERY wrong.

Give people some room. They need to vent. They are grieving. There is no more legal recourse. Their appealing to the same courts and judges over and over again, with the same stuff with a new twist now and then - Terri speaking ... . Soon it will be over.

All the judges are sticking together and turning the Shindlers down. It is a very sad day. There is no reason for her death - she's not terminal!
128 posted on 03/26/2005 2:29:32 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Total agreement Lando, I mean come on K2Bladder??


129 posted on 03/26/2005 2:32:02 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: All

Well this has be fun, and interesting. Lots of you need to learn how to read (comprehension), and not jump to conclusions.

Lots of you need to practice what you preach, and not be so mean spirited, and nasty.

To those that got the point, I thank you for the discussion.

And to ALL of you Happy Easter!


130 posted on 03/26/2005 2:32:46 PM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: nmh

I very much agree with you, I was concerned with the amount and nature of a lot of those threads.


131 posted on 03/26/2005 2:39:06 PM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: Lando Lincoln

I apologize for my last post to you. I should have kept it to myself. You are right about prayer. If it's your wish I will not post to you after this.

I'm angry because it's wrong to say this is an "overload," that people should just stop talking about this issue, to expect that we should all just "move on."

This is a heinous moment in American history.


As for myself, I believe disengaging myself from this issue for selfish reasons ("It's over already, let it go," "I'm tired of it," "Where's the real news," etc.) would be as reprehensible as what's being done to Terri by her husband and doctors.


132 posted on 03/26/2005 2:40:18 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Hank Rearden
Hank Rearden wrote:


It's Schiavorepublic.com, and it's getting pretty weird, repetitive, hysterical, bombastic, idiotic and tedious.




You forgot "vicious"

I think what is happening to Terri is just plain evil, but some of the FReeper on Freeper attacks are JUST over the top.

There are people on FR who advocating vigilante action, applauding the nut-job in NC who offered the bounty to whack Greer and MS, and many, many, who have decided to turn on President Bush and Jeb Bush for NOT acting like this country is a monarchy and calling out the troops.

(Jack-boots, anyone?)

Thankfully, some of the most violent suggestions and some of the vilest attacks have been pulled.

133 posted on 03/26/2005 2:40:57 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: clyde260

These are indeed important issues of life vs death for Terri, right to die, states rights, family rights at such a time, rule of law, judicial competency, executive powers, so much more.

But on balance I agree, a lot of folks here have gone absolutely bonkers posting any 'net BS going around. Or maybe ginning up their own "facts."

If I thought the poor woman had any hope for even the mildest form of recovery success I'd probably be inclined to support any reasonable attempt to quote save her.

Here's what I think: If Mrs. Schiavo could tell us now, as a person with whole, sane mind, what she would want I believe she would not want to be maintained as a near vegatable with no hope for recovery.

I wouldn't. I also think she said as much to her husband and others before her body failed.


134 posted on 03/26/2005 2:41:49 PM PST by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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To: clyde260

It's not so much that this issue is being discussed.

What is happening to Terri is pure evil, and SHOULD be talked about.

The problem *I* have is HOW the whole thing is being discussed, and some of the things being advocated.

The name-calling, viscious personal attacks and some of the calls promoting violence that have been posted over the last week are simply DELIGHTING the Left.

We have people here on FR who SHOULD be allies, many who are otherwise FRiends, yet the eye-gouging and hair-pulling has reached a crecendo.

We look ridiculous to the outside world.


135 posted on 03/26/2005 2:48:19 PM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: clyde260

"I very much agree with you, I was concerned with the amount and nature of a lot of those threads."

We are NOT in agreement.

My suggestion to you was to leave these folks work out their grief and frustration. What is going on with Terri is wrong on too many levels to list.

Be considerate. Please.



136 posted on 03/26/2005 2:49:12 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: clyde260

Why is it that in all the coverage of the Shiavo case (and it has been endless!), why haven't my questions been answered? 1. What is the real bottom line of that woman's condition? 2. Why has the 'husband' refused to step aside in favor of the patient's parents? 3. Who has been paying for the patient's care up to now? 4. Will the husband gain a financial benefit if the patient dies? 5. Are the parents prepared to meet the financial costs of the patient's continued care? It would seem to me that those questions should have been answered at the very top of the story. If I missed something along the way, please update me.


137 posted on 03/26/2005 2:50:14 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: clyde260

Thanks for posting a Terri thread telling us there's too many Terri threads. Good stuff!


138 posted on 03/26/2005 2:51:26 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: clyde260; Admin Moderator
You know, I've been concerned about the discourse on FR for awhile - long before the TS matter came to a head. People seem to have so little patience for an (even seemingly) different point-of-view. I've seen verse and scripture thrown at people over everything. I've seen people called all kinds of disparaging names. We have been eating our own - and it troubles me. I have posted somewhere around 850 - 900 threads in an effort to contribute. But, I have been called rediculous names for posting something for thought. Thin skinned? Yeah, maybe. But, it is not like it used to be.

Lando

139 posted on 03/26/2005 2:51:27 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (How many liberals does it take to win a war?)
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To: Hand em their arse
We are a very forgetful society and maybe if we get blasted out by the number of Terri threads it will make us actually look at the issues surrounding it rather blowing it off as another thread.

I would agree, but these threads have degenerated into insult fests. It's not worth trying to find a few gems of wisdom, when you have to slog through a tangle of "You're a liar", "You're not a Christian", "Bush is a coward" crap that gets in the way.

140 posted on 03/26/2005 2:51:39 PM PST by The Jabberwock
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