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POLL? Who's the villain in the Terri Schiavo case?
PHX news | 3/24/05 | AZ Righty

Posted on 03/24/2005 11:50:52 AM PST by AZ Righty

Who's the villain in the Terri Schiavo case?

(49%) Her husband

(24%) The government

(14%) Her parents

(12%) The media


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KEYWORDS: clintonjudges; evildoers; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Darksheare
With you putting words in my mouth, I will never have to eat.

Reading comprehension isn't for everyone.

261 posted on 03/24/2005 1:06:31 PM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: ContraryMary
This is an EXTRAORDINARY case. People in vegetative states get removed from life support every day with no fanfare. Why? Because USUALLY all parties are in agreement about their loved-ones wishes.

In this case we have half the family saying "WHOA... Thats not what she wanted" AND hubby acting like a creep.

That being said, YES... I would like the various state legislatures to enact laws that say "we will NOT remove life support UNLESS there is a written document OR all family members of a certain degree (Spouses and Parents/ and or adult children) AGREE.
262 posted on 03/24/2005 1:07:21 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: G.Mason
You also could do with some education on pacemakers and their purpose.

You need education on what food is. It's not life support. Is it legal to withold your life support? And don't hand me that she's PVS. She's a human being who is healthy. Do we now kill the disabled?

264 posted on 03/24/2005 1:08:07 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: G.Mason

I am not putting words in your mouth.
I am using your words that you HAVE used.
You say that a feeding tube is life support.
By the same 'logic' used to class a feeding tube as 'life support', a pacemaker is life support.
You have indicated that people with 'life support' are not worthy of life.

All quite well within what you have said.
Don't like it?
It IS what you have said and indicated.


265 posted on 03/24/2005 1:08:53 PM PST by Darksheare (Gravity - Fear = SPLAT!)
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To: bukkdems
I'm wondering if all the "right to lifers" have mounted any attacks against Christian Scientists who deny insulin to diabetic children?

For what it's worth, I think such an action is criminal.

266 posted on 03/24/2005 1:10:16 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: bikepacker67
Maybe in your world, we can set up a "life, not worth living" advisory board, who can decide who gets to stew in their own unflushed poisons.

I think many people want exactly that.

267 posted on 03/24/2005 1:10:22 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: beelzepug
"Lots of people require I-V's, sometimes for days, after they have surgery. I guess if they don't regain consciousness fast enough to suit their "guardian", he can have the I-V stopped to ease their suffering, is that right? I'm just asking; I'm no medical expert like some people here."

Another slickmiester heard from.

Reading comprehension is most difficult when your head is stuck in one gear.




Do try to be original in your reply. No head up butt stuff. ;)

268 posted on 03/24/2005 1:10:48 PM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: G.Mason

"Reading comprehension isn't for everyone."

Nice personal attack by the way.
From below the post biutton:
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.


269 posted on 03/24/2005 1:10:56 PM PST by Darksheare (Gravity - Fear = SPLAT!)
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To: AZ Righty

You are wrong on this one. Look at her husband and his history of treatment of Terri. The fact that he is fighting tooth and nail to kill her. If he has any love for her he would walk away with his girlfriend and children. Judge Greer has only let in Mr. Schiavo's side and has thrown out everything her family or friends have testfied to. You would think that to be fair he would listen to both sides.


270 posted on 03/24/2005 1:11:19 PM PST by sam I am
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To: AZ Righty
If you were right that limited government means that we keep government out of our private lives, then it's ok to kill Terri, and allow Muslims to engage in honor killings of their wives and daughters, and the Humong, and Mongolians would be allowed to kidnap and rape brides to force marriage, a whole host of ethnicities would routinely buy and sell women and children because the government has no damned right to stick it's nose in PRIVATE family affairs.
271 posted on 03/24/2005 1:11:32 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: blownawaybylibs

You're comical.

So I'm a liberal because I support limited government and the rights of Married couples?

I thought us conservatives supported this?

What happened to us? What happend to our conservative movement? We've no longer free thinkers are we? We can no longer think for our selves...can we? So sad. We had so much potential.

I thought we supported the rights of married couples, but today I came to the realization we only support the rights of marriage when it suits us.

I thought we supported limited government, but then today you taught me we only support limited government when it play into our hand.

The founders are laughing at your ability to think through each one of these issues.

You had so much potential...


272 posted on 03/24/2005 1:12:24 PM PST by AZ Righty
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To: AZ Righty
Michael is the husband. He's the guardian. Don't try to violate that marriage right.

Bunk! He was with Terri for 5 years, but he has been with his new wife longer than that, and they have had two children together. A guardian/spouse should at minimum be required to not start a family with another if he wants to remain life and death decision maker over the first spouse. The marriage right should end when you take on another spouse. Or is bigamy legal in Florida?

274 posted on 03/24/2005 1:16:16 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: AZ Righty
(MAN), will you have this woman as your lawful wedded wife, to live together in the estate of matrimony? Will you love her, honor her, comfort her, and keep her in sickness and in health; forsaking all others, be true to her as long as you both shall live? (I will).
275 posted on 03/24/2005 1:17:36 PM PST by John Lenin (Liberalism =Mental Illness..........Denial of Reality)
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To: AZ Righty

You're getting pounded in here, man. (I'm saying that just in case you weren't aware....don't want people to get the idea that you're in a PVS...you never know what the judiciary in Arizona is going to rule)


276 posted on 03/24/2005 1:17:37 PM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: blownawaybylibs
you're worse than a liberal

**************

Now, now. He's no worse than a liberal.

277 posted on 03/24/2005 1:17:42 PM PST by trisham (choose life!)
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To: AZ Righty
I think the government and the parents are the villain... Am I in the wrong? As a good conservative I thought we were fighting for limited government and privacy rights.

Am I wrong?

Yes

No government can prevent your death.... we all die.... no government ever was created to protect you from life....conservative state the first role of any government is to protect your life and property....not assure your death

You operate from the assertion that the government is taking away her right to die ... but that impossible... we all will die and it's permanent so if that was the reason for government there be no need

The first role of any government is to protect your life and property from being taken from you against your will.... in fact government was created because it was assumed as a truth that other want to take your life and property against your will.... it was not assumed as a truth that other will rob you of death against your will....

in fact if the role of government protect your death the way it is to protect your life then the government has no business from preventing suicide an any time for any reason and it would be a crime to prevent other from suicide.... death would be like a sex act ... just ask some one else ...do me...and it's no business of government.....

278 posted on 03/24/2005 1:18:05 PM PST by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me)
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To: Darksheare
No slick.

You said ... " You conveniently forget that a pacemaker is more 'life support' than a feeding tube is."

That is a fraudulent statement. Untrue. Not correct.Wrong definition. Your false assumption.

In Theresa's situation, the stomach tube IS considered life support.

But then that was decided by the rogue courts and the dishonest and murderous husband, and any other excuses you want to state.

280 posted on 03/24/2005 1:18:21 PM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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