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POLL? Who's the villain in the Terri Schiavo case?
PHX news | 3/24/05 | AZ Righty

Posted on 03/24/2005 11:50:52 AM PST by AZ Righty

Who's the villain in the Terri Schiavo case?

(49%) Her husband

(24%) The government

(14%) Her parents

(12%) The media


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KEYWORDS: clintonjudges; evildoers; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Trust but Verify
My spouse will follow my wishes.

As will mine.

161 posted on 03/24/2005 12:30:56 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: AZ Righty
I thought we were supposed to be compassionate conservatives not killers of the weakest and meekest on this earth.

Many of you are living in or have returned to the North where there is darkness.

Somehow I see the new conservative as someone who has come back into the West and awakened to the light.

We have raised a whole generation of ignorant but highly intelligent Doctor Spockians who will probably never thirst nor know the real truth and the light that abides on this earth.

Some of you will understand this post but the unenlightened will not.
162 posted on 03/24/2005 12:31:41 PM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: AZ Righty

I completely agree, however, I would substitute the parents for the media. This is certainly a matter for the parents to have a say in, but the media has been blowing up what should be a private matter, which led, in part, to big govt.'s involvement.


163 posted on 03/24/2005 12:32:00 PM PST by honest2God
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To: smokeyb
But I bet Michael also said she wanted to be immediately cremated also!

But no, mon chere! It's because she's afraid of bugs!

He's such an idiot knuckle dragger.

164 posted on 03/24/2005 12:32:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: teenyelliott

National law says that no state can deprive a citizen of life without due process of law. That is used to give convicted felons on death row access to federal courts. And the "cruel and unusual punishment" phrase in the 8th amendment would prevent that felon from being starved to death. Are you saying that the law protects a felon better than a disabled woman? That's not very equal protection.


165 posted on 03/24/2005 12:33:13 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: atomicpossum
The government (the court) has granted this man the permission to murder his wife via neglect, and to prevent anyone else from interceding--more than that, actually, the judge outlined the process. Is that the kind of limited government you're advocating?

Exactly! The legislature is not the only branch of government; to give a judge unchecked power is far more foolish than having an elected body interfere. The judiciary is also government; government that apparently answers to no one

166 posted on 03/24/2005 12:33:16 PM PST by Emily RN
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To: smokeyb
But I bet Michael also said she wanted to be immediately cremated also!

Frankly, I don't mind Michael making the decision to cremate her. There are too many ghouls out there who would gladly dig up her grave in an effort to determine how much of her brain is really left.

167 posted on 03/24/2005 12:33:33 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: AZ Righty
>>It's not about our team v. their team.<<

Your naive ideology is very admirable, but you obviously have not lived very long or have lived a very sheltered life.

Muleteam1

169 posted on 03/24/2005 12:34:44 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: All

Our movement - the conservative movement values life. Yes you are correct. We also value property rights and limited and defined government.

Right? Can we all agree on this?

What most of you are asking for is a government over-stepping it's responsibility.

We can't ask our elected leaders to be responsible with their limited powers when we're all freaking out like little girls in a department store.

RELAX! And demand your leaders follow the laws.

Okay some of you are going to get lost here and ask me about murder, but that's not the issue.

The issue is property rights and limited government.

It's about Michael Schiavo having the rights to protect his wife's wishes without the threat from conservatives who use to believe in limited government.

If you don't defend Michael Schiavo's rights to make the best moves for his wife, then that right won't be there when you need them...our your wife needs them to defend you from the oppressive state that YOU, Mr. Conservative helped to build.


170 posted on 03/24/2005 12:34:46 PM PST by AZ Righty
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To: All

Our movement - the conservative movement values life. Yes you are correct. We also value property rights and limited and defined government.

Right? Can we all agree on this?

What most of you are asking for is a government over-stepping it's responsibility.

We can't ask our elected leaders to be responsible with their limited powers when we're all freaking out like little girls in a department store.

RELAX! And demand your leaders follow the laws.

Okay some of you are going to get lost here and ask me about murder, but that's not the issue.

The issue is property rights and limited government.

It's about Michael Schiavo having the rights to protect his wife's wishes without the threat from conservatives who use to believe in limited government.

If you don't defend Michael Schiavo's rights to make the best moves for his wife, then that right won't be there when you need them...our your wife needs them to defend you from the oppressive state that YOU, Mr. Conservative helped to build.


171 posted on 03/24/2005 12:34:49 PM PST by AZ Righty
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To: Trust but Verify

Trust, you have been on these posts long enough to realize that most here only consider their rumors to be facts, and anything said in trying to establish facts over fantasy, marks one as a Theresa killer.


172 posted on 03/24/2005 12:34:52 PM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: blownawaybylibs

Awfully cranky for a newbie.

Welcome to FR.


173 posted on 03/24/2005 12:35:26 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: clintonh8r; AZ Righty
HERE AZ...READ THIS POST AGAIN...

"One of the things that conservatives believe government should do is to protect those who are incapable of protecting themselves, and who have no other means of protection. I believe Terri comes under that definition."

FRegards,

174 posted on 03/24/2005 12:36:03 PM PST by Osage Orange (Democrats....appear as confused as goats on AstroTurf.)
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To: AZ Righty
If you don't defend Michael Schiavo's rights to make the best moves for his wife, then that right won't be there when you need them...our your wife needs them to defend you from the oppressive state that YOU, Mr. Conservative helped to build.

Exactly!

175 posted on 03/24/2005 12:36:07 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: AZ Righty
property rights

Property rights? Terri is PROPERTY???

176 posted on 03/24/2005 12:36:19 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: ARCADIA
I blame governor Bush for allowing this circus to run rampant over his administration. He should sieze Terry, verify the evidence, and then debate the merits of the issue with the judiciary. This is still a representative republic, we should not be ruled by a judiciary.

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I don't blame Governor Bush, but I am praying that he will arrange to take Terri into protective custody. There is so much wrong with the way this case was handled. Terri deserves to live-with her parents.

177 posted on 03/24/2005 12:36:37 PM PST by trisham (choose life!)
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To: ContraryMary
1. My spouse wont have to "follow my wishes" as I have a NOTORIZED LIVING WILL laying out what those wishes are.

2. I'm not saying he should be removed as guardian because of "allegations" that can't stand up to scrutiny. I am saying he should be removed as guardian because he has a CLEAR and OBVIOUS conflict of interest in the form of two flesh & blood children he has SPAWNED with another women, whom it seems he is eager to marry, BUT he cant because "oops" He's still married!

If Terri Shciavo were NOT in a hospice... if she was a happy healthy 40 year old woman, and suddenly turned up dead, the police would certainly want to know if Mike was having an affair (let alone had two children by another women) because it is MOTIVE to kill your spouse!!! Is it EVIDENCE of wrongdoing? No, but its enough to say "Sorry pal, you gave up your right to decide whether she lives or dies."
178 posted on 03/24/2005 12:37:31 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

"The annulment wouldn't work for him...

Using that timeline, I'd have to agree. Also, if Terri was the Catholic and not him, I'm guessing she'd be the one who would have to petition for the annullment. What I wonder now is, would the church be willing to grant an annullment on her behalf today, in the interest of saving her life? Wouldn't the sanctity of life trump all else?
Of course, I realize the judge has already denied Terri her Constitutional right to receive the Eucharist (free expression clause); why should I expect this to be any different? Judicial tyranny is going to be the death of this once proud nation, and hardly anyone, including too many here, can see it coming.


179 posted on 03/24/2005 12:37:48 PM PST by beelzepug (Parking For Witches Only--All Others Will Be Toad.)
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To: ContraryMary

I think a husband who has moved on should not be allowed to be guardian for time eternal. That's ridiculous. I would then say it falls on adult children first and parents second. Regardless, I do not think a guardian should be allowed to make any decision they want to without regard to what is decent and humane. They should not be allowed to starve the person to death.


180 posted on 03/24/2005 12:37:51 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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