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Texas Freepers a Call to Arms! The Panty Brigade.
Ankarlo.net ^ | 03/15/05 | Daryl Ankarlo

Posted on 03/16/2005 6:28:35 AM PST by kildak

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To: The_Victor
We don't have an income tax. We already have a business tax called the franchise tax, they are just changing the cricumstances (closing loopholes) under which they collect it.

The bill provides that businesses may pay a 1.1% tax on the incomes of all workers it employs in lieu of the franchise tax. Market forces, of course, will act to pass that on to the worker. It is an income tax that the Republicans meant to disguise to garner the support of people looking for property tax relief at any cost.

61 posted on 03/16/2005 12:09:58 PM PST by Texas Federalist (If you get in bed with the government, you'll get more than a good night's sleep." R. Reagan)
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To: Texas Federalist
Market forces, of course, will act to pass that on to the worker.

That would actually be illegal under Article 2 of the HB3.

62 posted on 03/16/2005 12:11:29 PM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: deport

I don't disagree with you on property owners needing tax relief, but what kind of relief are those who rent going to see? I don't think anyone can honestly sat that landlords are going to pass their tax savings along to their tenants.


63 posted on 03/16/2005 12:25:33 PM PST by kildak
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To: The_Victor
Quite frankly I want my $5.4 bil in property tax relief.

Me too, though I am not paying quite that much. :-)

This thread seems to be the honey to which anti-Republican insects are attracted. No mention of the tax cut.

64 posted on 03/16/2005 12:26:37 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Me too, though I am not paying quite that much. :-)

*grin*

Thanks for the smile. You're right about this thread.

65 posted on 03/16/2005 12:33:52 PM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: Leatherneck_MT

At 88 cents a pair, how can you go wrong? Of course once our congresscritters find out these inexepensive panties are made in China, all we'll hear about is how the undergarment industry being run out of the country and a need for more Americans to be employed in the panty making industry.


66 posted on 03/16/2005 12:34:15 PM PST by kildak
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To: kildak

Well renters will have to fend for themselves.... Maybe they'll get a $20 a month increase the next year rather than a $25 a month increase. I don't know. I'm just tried of funding education via the protperty tax route only. Spread it around so that all get a chance to contribute to the education dollars.


67 posted on 03/16/2005 12:37:53 PM PST by deport (You know you are getting older when everything either dries up or leaks.)
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To: kildak

Looks like I picked a bad day to sell my house then start smoking, eating junk food and starting a business in Texas.

68 posted on 03/16/2005 12:39:04 PM PST by isthisnickcool (This space for rent.)
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To: The_Victor

I'm aware of that, but it would be nearly impossible to prove that a wage decrease, or rather the lack of a wage increase is directly attributable to the tax. That provision is unenforceable.


69 posted on 03/16/2005 12:40:26 PM PST by Texas Federalist (If you get in bed with the government, you'll get more than a good night's sleep." R. Reagan)
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To: MeekOneGOP; All; kildak; DrewsDad
Thanks for the ping! Glad this got posted, I wanted to put it up but haven't had a chance to.

I heard the show this morning and was in hysterics. Someone from his show called Walmart and they said they'd sell the unmentionables for .88 cents a pair. Different folks were calling in with slogans to write on them and where to write them, eg "HB3 belongs here" on the inside rear. We need to come up with some of our own. This is a great FReeping opportunity!!

70 posted on 03/16/2005 12:40:27 PM PST by Donaeus
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To: MeekOneGOP; All; kildak; DrewsDad
Thanks for the ping! Glad this got posted, I wanted to put it up but haven't had a chance to.

I heard the show this morning and was in hysterics. Someone from his show called Walmart and they said they'd sell the unmentionables for .88 cents a pair. Different folks were calling in with slogans to write on them and where to write them, eg "HB3 belongs here" on the inside rear. We need to come up with some of our own. This is a great FReeping opportunity!!

71 posted on 03/16/2005 12:40:39 PM PST by Donaeus
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

All your doing is giving up one tax for another. The cost of the tax will be passed on to you in the form of higher prices of goods and services, and potentially smaller raises by your employer.


72 posted on 03/16/2005 12:41:02 PM PST by kildak
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To: kildak

"Just as long as they're clean!;)"

But my washed ones are still two toned.


Yellow in the front and brown in the back.:)


73 posted on 03/16/2005 12:43:21 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: kildak
All your doing is giving up one tax for another

So?? Where is the loss? Where are the "increased taxes" in the big picture?

74 posted on 03/16/2005 12:44:15 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Texas Federalist
...it would be nearly impossible to prove that a wage decrease, or rather the lack of a wage increase is directly attributable to the tax

You can apply the same logic to any business tax, or business expense for that matter.

Please understand, I'm not for this tax, I just am not willing to shoot down this tax bill over it. If you really want something to get worked up over though, the Texas Senate is working on it's own version of the bill which will increase business tax revenue from the $3.5 bil provided in HB3 to $5.5bil according to the Houston Comical

That might be a better place for this energy.

75 posted on 03/16/2005 12:53:43 PM PST by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: kildak

I have a call in to Fred Brown. I called his office and was talking to the receptionist, in the conversation I told her I really would like to talk to him...she said he would call as soon as he gets out of a meeting. We shall see....


76 posted on 03/16/2005 1:01:16 PM PST by native texan
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

We elected these folks with the expectation of a conservative agenda. Conservatives cut spending and lower taxes overall, which apparently our Texas House Republicans are incapable of doing. Instead of cutting spending or looking for other ways of generating revenue, the State is attempting to saddle us with another form of taxation.


77 posted on 03/16/2005 1:04:21 PM PST by kildak
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To: native texan

It's probably going to be a very long meeting;)


78 posted on 03/16/2005 1:05:58 PM PST by kildak
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To: kildak
We elected these folks with the expectation of a conservative agenda. Conservatives cut spending and lower taxes overall,...

I am assuming you can see that this cannot happen each term less we finally end up with no taxes and no government. With ever increasing costs just holding their own is doing pretty good.

The left has started their propaganda campaign against all things conservative in preparation for the next election. They are sliming DeLay and trying to create deadlock in Congress. Post like yours accomplish the same goal, intended or not.

79 posted on 03/16/2005 1:24:09 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: kildak
Well, Fred Brown just gave me a call back. He explained one reason for the employment tax...Businesses will have the option of either going with this tax or the franchise tax. As an example, WalMart just franchised outside of Texas and in doing so cost Texas $28 million dollars a year. That is only one business...Dell, TI, and others have done the same thing. This is to get businesses who are doing business in Texas to pay their fair share.

I also ask him about it just going into the general fund...that is not true. It will be earmarked for education.
Our property taxes will be reduced 1/3 almost immediately.
So...that's what he said...I hope he's right.
80 posted on 03/16/2005 1:24:29 PM PST by native texan
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