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American Idol 2005--Live Thread
3-15-05

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:53:32 AM PST by silent_jonny

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I have no idea what the different is between them and the famous charts made that are made public and updated every week (which are the industry's bible).

That odd blurb from Billboard's 'Chart Beat' column had me scratching my head so much that, in an attempt to translate it into English, I seem to have forgotten the language myself. LOL! The above should read:

I have no idea what the difference is between them and the famous charts that are made public...

10,741 posted on 06/16/2005 6:42:25 PM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar

My brother is going to the concert in B'ham. I am thinking of purchasing tickets as well. But there are only 4, maybe 5 I am interested in seeing perform. The rest of them not so much. Since it is Bo's homestate alot of the people who bought tickets are hoping they give Bo a little more singing time.


10,742 posted on 06/17/2005 4:53:55 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Wolfstar

Carrie has more competition in her little niche than Bo would have in his.

There are many women just like her in country, except for they are mostly better singers and all look like beauty queens.

Look for Carrie to drip 8-12 pounds if she is serious about showbiz.


10,743 posted on 06/17/2005 8:22:23 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
There are many women just like her in country, except for they are mostly better singers and all look like beauty queens.

Look for Carrie to drop 8-12 pounds if she is serious about showbiz.

'Mostly agree with you, but there are a couple exceptions...Wynona Judd and Trisha Yearwood for example.

You take a lot of heat for your comments, but you're just saying what many are thinking.

Any guy who has Margaret Thatcher on a pedestal
is A-OK with me.

10,744 posted on 06/17/2005 11:03:46 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady
The Judds didn't start off with a morbidly obese daughter, she ate her way into that position and she is accepted based on her long history in country music.
She couldn't just appear on the scene and make it today looking like she does. Image is more important than ever it seems.
10,745 posted on 06/17/2005 11:20:06 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Image is more important than ever it seems.

True. Fame is not a dream come true.
It's a nightmare. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

10,746 posted on 06/17/2005 11:40:24 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady

I had a week of national fame once (not getting into it) and it was a pain and very intrusive.
I can see where fame is a burden.


10,747 posted on 06/17/2005 11:47:38 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I always thought if one had enough gratitude it would
cut through any challenge.
But fame is the slipperiest of slopes,
and not what it appears to be at all.

I can see why so many end up seeking relief in
unhealthy ways.

We live or die by what we turn to for comfort.


10,748 posted on 06/17/2005 12:27:06 PM PDT by b9
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To: EmilyGeiger

Emily, like you, I'm crazy about Bo. I hope he gets to do an album that he can really put his heart and soul into, because I think it will be a big hit.


10,749 posted on 06/17/2005 7:25:28 PM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar

I agree with you there! :) He's had so many "life" experiences that a little of that has to be poured into his music. I hope he stays on his straight and narrow path though. Being in the spotlight does strange things to some. Hopefully he won't fall into that category.


10,750 posted on 06/18/2005 6:34:10 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: silent_jonny; texasflower; GraniteStateConservative; EmilyGeiger; doodlelady; A CA Guy; Netizen
White it's too early to be sure, preliminary data that starts to trickle in on Mondays seems to indicate that Carrie will have, at best, a moderate country hit with her AI single. If the arc of its actual sales follows its pre-sales, downloads and radio spins, it will peak early and fall quickly.

This week's Mediabase stats for radio spins show that Carrie's "In Your Heaven" has had a -9% drop in air play from an extremely weak 106 spins last week to an anemic 97 this week. That's Fantasia territory -- her "Truth Is" had 82 spins last week. That's 97 and 82 indivudal plays of their songs nationwide. Carrie is 86th on the list and Fantasia is 89th.

The big difference between the two AI winners is that Carrie's record is brand new, while Fantasia's has been out a long time. Normally, something new gets more airplay.

Carrie's record did get in the range of 300 spins per week shortly after the season ended, but it's dropped sharply. Carrie's single is on track to be the weakest AI winner's single so far, if her sales follow the same trajectory as her airplay.

10,751 posted on 06/20/2005 5:44:38 PM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar

I heard her song once for a bit. Sounded like it was a cookie cutter molded song.
DUD


10,752 posted on 06/20/2005 8:46:51 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Wolfstar

It's the song. If they had put out Angels Brought Me Here instead, it would have been hugh.


10,753 posted on 06/21/2005 6:17:06 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Wolfstar

I still think the most moving thing I ever heard Carrie sing
was her a capella audition song, "I Can't Make You Love Me."


10,754 posted on 06/21/2005 7:27:01 AM PDT by b9
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To: GraniteStateConservative
It's the song. If they had put out Angels Brought Me Here instead, it would have been hugh.

I think the second part of the song is stronger than the first. I also thought that the music was overpowering her vocals again. I think that is why I liked the second half because you could hear her better.

I bought the single yesterday.

I also bought Diana DeGarmo's 'Blue Skies' album yesterday, too. I still think she was robbed.

10,755 posted on 06/21/2005 7:39:02 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: A CA Guy; GraniteStateConservative; doodlelady
I agree in part -- it's the song, which is awful. I only heard it the night Carrie and Bo first sang it on AI, but hated it then.

The song cuts totally against what's popular in music these days. Rock is making a strong comeback. A British rock band named Coldplay is currently topping the Billboard album chart. The urban genre of rap, hip-hop and R&B remains strong. Carrie's sappy single doesn't fit anywhere. It's not true country, although they are marketing it toward that genre. It's certainly not rock or urban.

But having said all that about the song, I have to say it's also Carrie, herself. I've struggled to try to put my finger on exactly what the problem is with her. She's certainly easy on the eyes, and she has a fine singing voice. Yet she leaves many people cold. Not everyone -- she does have her fans. But many people simply cannot connect with her.

10,756 posted on 06/21/2005 8:03:33 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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To: Wolfstar
many people simply cannot connect with her.

Her first performance (audition)
and very last ("Thank you, America!")
were the only two times she seemed real, IMO

Apparently America agrees with you,
or her win would translate into better sales.

10,757 posted on 06/21/2005 8:19:32 AM PDT by b9
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To: Wolfstar

When sites like Amazon or Barnes and Noble ranks songs is it based only on their site's sales?


10,758 posted on 06/21/2005 8:22:49 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Wolfstar
I would venture that lots of people like or dislike certain people. I don't care for Bo and from reading the reviews from his cd single seems there are others that don't care for him either. One even asked for their money back!

I realize you don't like Carrie, but between you and CA guy mentioning it in every post, it really is getting old.

I think these single cd's are going to be poor predictors because in an of itself the song isn't that great. Hopefully by the time their albums come out, it will be easier to tell how they will do.

10,759 posted on 06/21/2005 8:27:21 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: Netizen
When sites like Amazon or Barnes and Noble ranks songs is it based only on their site's sales?

Yes, only their sales. As for the fan "review" on those sites, they've become a battleground of sorts for AI fans to continue arguing over their favorites. Happened with Clay and Ruben, and with Fantasia and Diana, also.

10,760 posted on 06/21/2005 8:40:52 AM PDT by Wolfstar (U.S.M.C. -- when it absolutely, positively has to be destroyed over night)
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