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"GODFATHER" of Dog-Fighting BUSTED (Louisiana)
KATC3 ^ | Mar 11, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 03/12/2005 1:20:26 PM PST by kanawa

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To: NC_Pitbulls

What does it mean to you to "better your yard"?

I bet it ain't good landscaping. :~D


101 posted on 04/02/2005 7:23:03 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: loverofpits
If you have some points to make, please do so without making personal attacks on other posters,
it reflects poorly on you, your site and your position.

"Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy when posting and refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, vulgarity, threats, racial or religious bigotry, or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience."

102 posted on 04/02/2005 7:24:14 AM PST by kanawa
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To: Ditter

well we cant leave out the german shepherd that mauled a 10 yr old boy because the boy was playing catch with a friend and the dog wanted the ball....or even the pomeranian that literaly ripped a 1 week old baby to shreds cause it thought it was its chew toy


103 posted on 04/02/2005 7:55:23 AM PST by sillyfilly
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think they are showing themselves to be ~really classy~ folks, all on their own!

There are certainly individuals that are showing themselves to be "really classy".
Thank goodness we don't have that problem on FR.
I don't see it as fair to judge a whole group of people based on the statements of individuals.
Especially if we ignore others that are attempting to have a dialog.
I hope that posters aren't denigrated based on unpolished communication skills.
It doesn't invalidate their points and smacks of elitism.

104 posted on 04/02/2005 8:08:29 AM PST by kanawa
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To: kanawa

Well, I have to admit that I am not impressed with posters who appear to make no attempt to write, spell or punctuate well.

This is a political forum, not an uneducated teenage one. To be taken seriously here, some attempt will have to be made to use passable English, you know that. If there were no standards here, the conversation would soon sound like DU. It would reflect on our own intelligence to ~not~ comment on it.

I didn't just read one poster or one thread over at that forum, I browsed it for a few hours last week. Perhaps they are not all dog fighters, but they know some... they do not shun it, they think it's perfectly legitimate, and they all talk in vague code but it doesn't take long to figure it out. I really don't think I'm wrong on this.


105 posted on 04/02/2005 8:16:44 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: sillyfilly

Competition for toys or food or attention, dogs don't always see children the same way they view adults.


106 posted on 04/02/2005 8:21:36 AM PST by Ditter
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To: HairOfTheDog

Maybe he meant better his "mill".


107 posted on 04/02/2005 8:28:07 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I'm picturing a lovely scene.... Pit bull dogs chained up to little boxes all over the yard with anchor chain you could moor a ship with. Just lovely! Add a few cars that don't run and junk heaps here and there... just for color. ;~D


108 posted on 04/02/2005 8:34:14 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

My view exactly!


109 posted on 04/02/2005 8:36:54 AM PST by Ditter
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To: sillyfilly

We certainly can't leave out German Shepherds and Pomeranians who kill. We'll mention them on the rare occasion they actually kill people. But in the mean time - we're really up to our ears in fatal pit bull attacks.



110 posted on 04/02/2005 9:13:51 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: kanawa

I don't condone pit fighting but these dogs love to fight. They'd rather fight than do anything else. I'd let my own go at it until they got out of control and then they'd cry like babies when I broke them up. Btw, anyone that puts a dog that isn't game against a dog that is game is sick and should be dealt with accordingly.


111 posted on 04/02/2005 9:30:37 AM PST by muslims=borg (Take the violence out of Islam and whats left ?)
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To: muslims=borg

So you think dog fighting is OK as long as they are equal. Interesting.


112 posted on 04/02/2005 9:41:50 AM PST by Ditter
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To: HairOfTheDog
A good heart, honesty, a willingness to listen and not just talk will always trump polished English to me.
To assume the poster is making 'no attempt' to write well would be unfair and unkind.
The standard that distinguishes FR from DU is not based on English skills.

If we have some notions or concerns about that site,
here is an opportunity to raise them with the members of the site that are posting here.
Let's do it the FR way, using specifics, addressing the argument and avoiding ad hominems.

113 posted on 04/02/2005 9:43:19 AM PST by kanawa
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To: kanawa

See... at least you have the sense to use good punctuation and grammar when you lecture me ;~D


114 posted on 04/02/2005 9:51:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
LOL Thanks ...I think

All the best to you, dear HOTD

115 posted on 04/02/2005 10:18:07 AM PST by kanawa
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To: Ditter

I knew it wouldn't take long !!! Theres always someone that likes to put words into other people's mouths. I assume you agree with my statement that putting a dog that isn't game against a game dog is sick ? If you do then nuff said because thats all I said.


116 posted on 04/02/2005 10:25:25 AM PST by muslims=borg (Take the violence out of Islam and whats left ?)
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To: muslims=borg

I think we happen to think it's sick to put two 'game' dogs together as well. They have only instincts and reactions to threats. As their owners, we're supposed to be smarter than them.


117 posted on 04/02/2005 11:09:08 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: All

I want to thank those that are open-minded and are able to consider some of the posts from www.game-dog.com. I also would like to apologize for the posts by members that may have offended others.
Properly bred American Pit Bull Terriers, such as Mr. Boudreax's, are not people aggressive in any sense. It has been bred out of them. Mr. Boudreax's dogs are the foundation for a alot, if not most, pit bulls in existence. That is why pit bulls are not human aggressive. Look up American Pit Bull Terrier on www.atts.org and compare the numbers to the beloved Border Collie, Cocker Spaniel and many other breeds. The numbers speak for themselves.
The problem lies within improper raising and breeding. The sad truth is that the pit bull has become a status symbol to many and the breed has been bred for color and size in the heightening of that status symbol. In this process, the admirable qualities of this breed, such as temperment, have been ignored and unimportant qualities, such as size, have been sought out.
When you have people that have no true knowledge of the breed outside of color and how the dog may portray themselves, you begin having a real problem. The dogs lacking in the admirable qualities are sold in mass quantities to immature and irresponsible people that may use the dog improperly and encourage human aggression. www.game-dog. is absolutely against this in any form. We are for the preservation of our breed in it's true form. This way the breed's many admirable qualities may be maintained. This does not mean dogfighting. There are many other ways to have our dogs "prove" themselves. This includes, but not limited to, weight pull and conformation.
The actions or comments by a select few members of www.game-dog.com should not represent the majority, who has a true love and admiration of what we feel to be the smartest, most loyal, tempermentally sound, and loving dog in the world.


118 posted on 04/02/2005 11:11:07 AM PST by Buck7
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To: Buck7
Thanks for your reply.

I happen to believe that aggression is aggression, drive is drive. Training may target or direct drive or aggression, but there is no emotional difference between human or animal aggression. It's all just instinctive reaction to threat, dominance, and prey. There may be a difference between dogs that are controlled or uncontrolled, but that is a different thing.

When you say this "We are for the preservation of our breed in it's true form. This way the breed's many admirable qualities may be maintained. This does not mean dogfighting. There are many other ways to have our dogs "prove" themselves. This includes, but not limited to, weight pull and conformation. "

OK so the dog is not limited to dog fighting, but is dogfighting a legitimate sport to people on your board? Be honest now... because I think in all the threads that speak of dog's 'win' records, if the sport were pulling, it would say that. The sport they 'win' at isn't mentioned.
119 posted on 04/02/2005 11:24:39 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: muslims=borg

I think putting two dogs together to fight whether they are equal or unequal is sick. I think whether you encourage your equal dogs to fight or allow them to fight is sick. I think dog fighting, cock fighting, bull fighting or any other of these blood sports is sick and appeals to sick people. I approve of horse racing rodeo and the hunting of wild animals.


120 posted on 04/02/2005 11:44:04 AM PST by Ditter
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