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Ruger and S&W
7MAR05 | My own bad self

Posted on 03/07/2005 6:58:29 AM PST by Gefreiter

If anyone owns or has experience with a S&W 457 or Ruger P97 I'd like to hear from you. I'm considering these models but can afford only one. Mission will be range gun with occasional carry.

I live close enough to S&W to buy from the factory, which puts the Smith and this model Ruger in the same price range.

Any advice concerning these weapons is welcome.

Thanks in advance,

g


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1 posted on 03/07/2005 6:58:29 AM PST by Gefreiter
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To: Gefreiter

Actually, post reasons please. I'm hoping to buy soon and would love to her the pros and cons of both.


2 posted on 03/07/2005 7:00:57 AM PST by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Gefreiter; archy; Squantos; humblegunner; Eaker

Gef has some questions abotu guns, questions in artcile.
So I'll ping some that I know that may be able to answer.

Yes, that would be you guys.
*chuckle*


3 posted on 03/07/2005 7:03:32 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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"abotu guns, questions in artcile. "

WTF??!
ABOUT and ARTICLE..
Typos demons, check your keyboards!


4 posted on 03/07/2005 7:04:12 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Darksheare

D,
Thanks for bringing help.

And get some coffee to your typo demons!

g


5 posted on 03/07/2005 7:07:05 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: Gefreiter

Getting coffee now.
And welcome.
It may be a bit before they get here.
It being Monday and all.
*wincing*


6 posted on 03/07/2005 7:09:52 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Gefreiter

For the price, can't beat the Ruger, it'll last forever and will hit what it's aimed at...but I'm fond of Rugers


7 posted on 03/07/2005 7:15:46 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr; Gefreiter

Admittedly, I like my itty bitty Ruger 10/22.
Though my 'prejudice' and 'bias' runs towards higher calibers.. like 105mm.
When they get a nice shooting 30mm semi-auto out there, I may consider getting it.
(Call it 'howitzer addiction'...)


8 posted on 03/07/2005 7:32:24 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Gefreiter; Darksheare

I'd go with the smith & wesson revolver......as ya state it's local and available . IMHO a much better rig that any ruger auto short of their Mk II rimfire series which are awesome as are rugers wheel guns. I don't care for their other autos.

I'll ask why the 41 mag ? Have you considered a 44 or 357 Mag so that lower powered "specials" can be used for carry or plinking ? Versitility with the .44 mag would seem to be a better choice. Carry 44 specials for self defense & hunt and or compete on steel chickens with 44 magnums......

just my opinion......


9 posted on 03/07/2005 7:50:32 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos; Gefreiter

Was looking at some of the new big bore revolvers, came to the conclusion that I am just too short and skinny for one.
I have rather small hands, so finding something for myself would be difficult at best.


10 posted on 03/07/2005 7:58:22 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Squantos

S,
The model 457 is a .45 semi:

http://www.firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=293526&sw_activeTab=1

Now, someday...some distant day, when I have more money to spend on big boy toys, I'll take a S&W 686, ported, with the 6" barrel.

Not that I need to compensate for anything, mind you...


11 posted on 03/07/2005 7:58:32 AM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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To: Gefreiter; Squantos

Here's what I'd been looking at and figured I'd end up wearing the front sight in my forehead..
http://firearms.smith-wesson.com/store/index.php3?cat=294660&item=1207228&sw_activeTab=2


12 posted on 03/07/2005 8:04:11 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: Gefreiter

Seiously consider a Glock 30.

It works every time you pull the trigger.

It holds 11 rounds of .45ACP.

It can be had for about $450.

I carry it.


In His Forever Grip

chuck


13 posted on 03/07/2005 8:05:16 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: Darksheare
Was looking at some of the new big bore revolvers, came to the conclusion that I am just too short and skinny for one. I have rather small hands, so finding something for myself would be difficult at best.

Now listen to your Uncle Slim... I shoot a ton of N Frame Smiths and I have relatively small hands and am pretty skinny to boot. You shouldn't have any problem getting a grip that will fit your hand properly.

There's tons of aftermarket wood and rubber grips that will work.

Check out the Smith forum:

http://www.smith-wessonforum.com/cgi-bin/sandwcgi/ultimatebb.cgi

I'm over there under the same screen-name.

14 posted on 03/07/2005 8:08:12 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around.....)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

FReeper inquiring about Ruger semiautos over here.


15 posted on 03/07/2005 8:08:59 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around.....)
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To: Gefreiter

"Now, someday...some distant day, when I have more money to spend on big boy toys, I'll take a S&W 686, ported, with the 6" barrel."

I love the L frame. I want the 686 with the 7 shot cylinder and a 3 inch barrel. Nice little concealable just like my 596 in .44 SPL.

I don't need no steenkeen compensator either. You make me laugh!


16 posted on 03/07/2005 8:10:24 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( Most people believe they don't have to answer to God. ><BCC>)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Ah.
Okers.

I kinda tend to judge stuff from firing the M16.
I couldn't hold it the way they said to do so.
It was too darn long!
(I am pretty skinny and short)

And teh M9 berettas felt like a VCR VHS tape in my hands.

So that's where my mental pic of fit comes from.
As far as whether or not I'd end up wearing the friont sight in my forehead..
That I base off the mental image of whether or not I can hold the darn thing to begin with.

Willdo.
And I'll keep this info in the forefront of memory.


17 posted on 03/07/2005 8:12:49 AM PST by Darksheare (If you were in my heart I'd surely not break you. If you were beside me and my love would take you.)
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To: XeniaSt

Doesn't the single action kind of pull like a revolver?


18 posted on 03/07/2005 8:13:28 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Gefreiter
I can assure you that the 686PP is everything you could want in a range and hunting gun. Always remember your hearing protection or you'll be like many of us ol timers who now wear it religiously albeit to late. No wonder the Monty Python skits sound like a lot of mumbling.

To answer the original question I'd go with the S&W. Well made and engineered guns with great customer support and being nearby is a big plus. Really don't have anything bad to say about Rugers though.

mc
19 posted on 03/07/2005 8:14:31 AM PST by mcshot (Boldly going nowhere with a smile and appreciation for life.)
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To: johnb838
Doesn't the single action kind of pull like a revolver?

Mine has a 3.5 lb trigger
20 posted on 03/07/2005 8:16:18 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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