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FREEPER FAMILY TABLE--The troubled child
me | March 4, 2005 | grellis

Posted on 03/04/2005 6:52:18 AM PST by grellis

Let me preface by saying that this thread is aimed at discussing kids who are dealing with socially driven syndromes or disorders. In a thread in the very near future, we will discuss family members with special physical needs: Down's syndrome, autism, Alzheimer's, et al.

There is a lot of ground to cover on this subject and it is difficult to know where to begin. All of us have heard, I am sure, that Americans (particularly children) are more obese today than we have been in the past. Are our children becoming food addicts or couch addicts? How do we stop this problem before it starts? What help is available to parents who have an obese child? Are we dong the best that we can, as parents, to set a good example: Do we exercise on a regular basis or come up with excuses not to do so? Are we eating healthy most of the time? Then there is the opposite end of the spectrum: anorexia and bulimia. Are we as conscious as we can possibly be of our childrens' self images? How do we encourage our children, especially our young girls, to embrace their frames rather than strive to look like one of the Olsen skeletons? Am I wrong in thinking that steroid use in adolescent boys is, in a way, related to anorexia in girls?

How many parents are aware of cutting? I'll be honest--I do not know that much about it, just that it is on the rise. Cutting entails the intentional, physical harm of one's self, ie slicing open the skin with a razor blade. What drives a child to do this?

Addiction to drugs and alcohol might best be left to a thread on its own. What say all of you?


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KEYWORDS: addiction; anorexia; cutting; dads; grandmas; grandpas; kids; moms; peerpressure; societalpressure
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To: Tax-chick

It sounds perfect. Do you know what brand it is?


21 posted on 03/04/2005 7:44:26 AM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (Romeo&Juliet, Troilus&Crisedye, Bogey&Bacall, Gable&Lombard, Brigitte&Flav)
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To: sarasota
I've also considered taking it outside when the weather gets warmer and drier.

Excellent idea, for a couple of reasons, at least. First, it will establish a habit of exercising outdoors--making a transition to other outdoor activities (hiking, biking, etc) more natural. Second, and again, this is specific--someone who is overweight should be discouraged, whenever possible, of "hiding away." You'll have mail in a minute.

22 posted on 03/04/2005 7:48:04 AM PST by grellis (Neil Diamond ROCKS!!!)
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To: grellis; LuLuLuLu

Like the toddlers on Maury Povich! There was once a 9 month old on Maury who weighed 100 pounds, his mom put soda in his bottle and fed him steak and potatos, bbq ribs and mac and cheese! Who gives a 9 month old soda and red meat! How do these stupid people keep breeding!!!


23 posted on 03/04/2005 7:48:53 AM PST by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: grellis

She hides away unlike anyone I've ever known. Always has.


24 posted on 03/04/2005 7:49:00 AM PST by sarasota
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

Doesn't say. We got it at "Dick's Sporting Goods," which has the same stock as every other big athletic store chain.


25 posted on 03/04/2005 7:49:41 AM PST by Tax-chick (Donate to FRIENDS OF SCOUTING and ruin a liberal's day!)
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To: sarasota

If your daughter likes pasta, then serve 100% whole wheat pasta with plenty of a veggie-packed marinara sauce and a sprinkling of a good fresh parmesan. The fresh cheese has a much more robust flavor than

Get rid of anything "starchy" that isn't 100% whole wheat - read labels! No potatoes, no white bread, no white flour. Triscuits are a nice snack and relatively low in fat and calories with a lot of fiber. Fiber is filling! Have her try taking a fiber supplement about 20 minutes before eating a meal, and she may find she gets fuller on less food.

Instead of red meat serve plenty of fish and chicken. Beans and eggs are a good (cheap!) source of lower fat protein. Also low fat dairy usually tastes better than fat free and generally has similar calorie counts and less fillers.

I have a mini trampoline that I bought about a year ago. I actually have some trampoline workout DVDs that are gathering dust on the shelf (the Urban Rebounding series). It can be a good cardio workout and helps build leg muscles too. Just have your daughter start SLOW - maybe 10-15 minutes of vigorous bouncing will be enough to work up a sweat and raise the heart rate without cauing too much muscle soreness.


26 posted on 03/04/2005 7:51:25 AM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: sarasota

My apologies, sarasota. The brain is not quite in gear, and I just couldn't imagine a child at 22 MONTHS helping herself to everything.

I really must learn to read more closely.

I agree with whomever said to eliminate sugar and white flour, and will add that we should all avoid processed food. Too much high fructose corn syrup.


27 posted on 03/04/2005 7:53:08 AM PST by LuLuLuLu (Loud pipes save lives.)
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To: grellis; All
 What are some ways we can prevent a young girl from starving herself in the hope that she might look like a photoshopped supermodel?
 
Because I was anorexic in HS, and when my good Italian mother forced me to eat, I would then become bulimic, all I can say is you really cant prevent it. Anorexia is all about control. The only think I felt I had control over in HS was my food intake. Classes, homework, peer pressure, parties, boy friends, girl friends etc, I felt I had no control over any of it, but hey, I could eat or not eat at my own discretion...
 
 With regard to obesity, I think it is often borne of bad habits but again, distorted self-image comes into play
 
As for the weight problem now a days... don't you think it has something to do with the fact we cant let our kids out to roam like we used to? I used to leave the house and play at this neighbor or that neighbor all summer long, as long as I was home by dusk. I panic letting my kids ride their bikes down the street. Our children cant be children like we were, and without that activity, the weight packs on..
 
Cant blame it on Twinkies, I loved Twinkies when I was little, but I would go out and play to burn it off

28 posted on 03/04/2005 7:54:43 AM PST by backinthefold (Recently, Fat Cat has become a source of static electricity, it is quite shocking)
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To: Rubber_Duckie_27

Thanks for all the wonderful ideas. I'm going to get to work on a meal plan this weekend and try to set out menus for the coming week. I'm also taking her roller skating (her favorite aside from swimming) and she's experessed an interest in learning to ski, so I think she's on her way to better health--and a better body.


29 posted on 03/04/2005 8:00:06 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

I was thinking of turning it into a book, but I would need to use a really big font to get it to more than one page!


30 posted on 03/04/2005 8:13:20 AM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: FatherofFive

The most powerful messages are often delivered in few words!


31 posted on 03/04/2005 8:25:55 AM PST by sarasota
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To: backinthefold

I was anorexic from my teens into my 30's. I blame it on my naturally very slim mother who constantly harped at me to watch my weight so I wouldn't have to watch it later. And glared at me when I took seconds of anything.

I was never heavy, but more curvy than she due to my German father's genes. For instance, I was a 34-C bra when I was 14.

I was keeping a diary about what I ate when I was 13 and weighing myself ten times a day. I would fast for three days every week. I knew that I wasn't fat, but I had an overdeveloped need to please my mom.

I agree about most children not getting outdoors and getting exercise. My boys have a number of outdoor chores as well as housework that they must do and are quite slim and healthy.

I don't get after them about how much they eat other than when they get picky. The issues that I developed about food
don't need to get passed on to another generation.


32 posted on 03/04/2005 9:31:28 AM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: annyokie
My mom had the full Italian figure, and I guess I didn't want to look like that. She even joked about being able to set a table for 2 on her rear... really she did..
 
I, like you, don't want to do that to my kids. My youngest is a bit heavy for 12 years old, but even her pediatrician said, lets see how the body changes when she gets her period.
 

33 posted on 03/04/2005 9:47:55 AM PST by backinthefold (Recently, Fat Cat has become a source of static electricity, it is quite shocking)
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To: backinthefold

Your daughter will likely have a growth spurt when she gets her period. I have no girls. What is the usual age that a girl gets her period today? I was about 12 and a half, but had a girlfriend who got her first at 9.


34 posted on 03/04/2005 9:59:36 AM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: backinthefold

My daughter was slender until she got her period. She was very stressed out about it and ate for comfort. Maybe it will have the reverse effect on your daughter. You never know with hormones.


35 posted on 03/04/2005 10:18:20 AM PST by sarasota
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To: backinthefold
Our children cant be children like we were, and without that activity, the weight packs on.

Sadly, so true. I was playing with the neighborhood kids, unsupervised, from first grade on. There's no way I can let my kids do that--we don't live in a ghetto but we have a few prostitues (which means johns, which means drugs...). Once the weather hits the 50s, I take the kids out for a walk every single day, at least a half-mile, usually more. Josh, at seven, would rather be staying at home learning computer programming but I'm going gestapo on that this year. His weight is okay but he's leaning toward heavy and he is NOT physically fit. No muscle tone whatever, gets winded very easily, etc. He threw a fit nearly every time I took him for a walk last summer but he always ended up enjoying himself. He is learning how to identify all kinds of things: Trees, birds, architecture...once I get him out, moving around, and looking at things he doesn't even realize he's getting some much needed exercise. The older he gets the more challenging it will become. A lot of my neighbors don't have a problem letting their kids run loose and I know Josh won't want Mom tagging along. All I can do is tell myself "Do you want a slightly resentful child or an Amber Alert?" Easy choice.

36 posted on 03/04/2005 10:37:36 AM PST by grellis (Neil Diamond ROCKS!!!)
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To: kiki04; Registered
FReeper Registered could do a wonderful photoshop with Evie yawning...and a tv running a Kerry ad in the background!

Reg, consider yourself duly challenged!!!

37 posted on 03/04/2005 10:40:05 AM PST by grellis (Neil Diamond ROCKS!!!)
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To: FatherofFive; sarasota; All
How does rice fit in with a healthy diet for someone who is trying to lose weight? I have ALWAYS hated rice until my hubby got a Zojiruchi rice cooker. Properly cooked rice is wonderful, especially if it is prepared in fruit juice or chicken broth. Now I can't get enough!!!

For any of you who like rice but hate preparing it, I can't stress strongly enough how excellent the Zojiruchi cooker is. Easily the best appliance we've ever had.

38 posted on 03/04/2005 10:45:05 AM PST by grellis (Neil Diamond ROCKS!!!)
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To: grellis

On the basis of my family, rice either helps digestion or rice constipates! White or brown or wild rice.


39 posted on 03/04/2005 10:49:34 AM PST by sarasota
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To: grellis

Why would you need another appliance for an item you can cook in a saucepan? I'm not being a smart-aleck, but you can make a pot of rice in 20 minutes on the stove-top.


40 posted on 03/04/2005 12:42:09 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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