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Should pornography be illegal?
Feb 28th 2005 | Me

Posted on 02/28/2005 5:53:06 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell

Prostitution: one adult pays another adult for sex- is illegal

Pornography: Where one adult pays two adults to have sex and brings a camera, This is legal.

Pornography has been around for over one hundred years, since the time of the camera,

but it has only been the last few decades where it became the money making industry that it is today. And today's pornography is much much worse.

This question came to me after reading this article

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1353029/posts

an excerpt "The Justice Department is appealing the dismissal of an obscenity case in Pittsburgh in which a federal judge said prosecutors went too far in trying to block the sale of pornographic movies over the Internet and through the mail. The case initially was prosecuted under Ashcroft""

Should pornography be illegal?

It's an opinion question, you answer, give your reasons. Is it free speech or not? Why. And where is the line drawn? Has pornography promoted homosexuality and unsafe sex? Or is it a privacy issue?

Should there be standards on pornography?

Concerned Women for America say No- what do you think?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: 18yroldauthority; opinion; pornography; sheknowsherporn; voiceofachild
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To: Lurking2Long; LauraleeBraswell

What's with you stalking this chick? It's kinda creepy.


161 posted on 02/28/2005 8:50:58 PM PST by jmc813 (Fiesta in the making at the Moontower)
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To: nopardons

Let me rephrase that whole deal.

What I want to do is to show people a way of living which rejects carnal pleasures. Then they will know that they have a choice. I'm not going to make them live that way and I ardently oppose ay ruling of that sort by federal overreach or judicial fiat.

I show them the door, and they can go in if they choose to. I have no power over them, and that is as it should be.

With great role models like Xlintoon and Larry Flynt and Empty V, most ppl don't even realize that maybe thinking about doing someone every two seconds isn't such a good idea.


162 posted on 02/28/2005 8:54:23 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: Killborn

In the early and mid '50s,BLUE LAWS were still in force. PLAYBOY was the first magazine to break through and it was pretty "tame",compared to what's around today. And it wasn't until '59 (I think),that obscenity laws were loosened a bit,and "LADY CHATTERLY'S LOVER " was able to be sold in America;just not everywhere in America,as some states would still not allow it to be sold. The floodgates were really opened,in the mid '60s though,vis-a-vis written material.


163 posted on 02/28/2005 8:56:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Killborn
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with federal and local obscenity laws;though IMHO,many of them were a bit too stringent.

Your personal behavior does less than nothing whatsoever to turn the tide; moral as it is.

164 posted on 02/28/2005 9:00:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: FactsMatter
The Internet can be used from immoral purposes, should it be banned

Pornography is not only used for immoral purposes, it is intrinsically immoral in and of itself. The same is not true for the internet.

165 posted on 02/28/2005 9:01:52 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Cedar
The laws should represent that which is right. If they don't, then they are bad laws and should be changed.

Any law which compels an actions which is not right is a bad law and should be changed.

That does not imply, however, that every action which is not right should be forbidden by law.

Indeed, the very essense of God's gift of free will is that people should have the freedom to do that which is right or that which is wrong, subject only to the constraint that they do not interfere with others' rights.

The father of the Prodigal Son loved his child enough to let him go and discover his foolishness for himself. Though it might have been easier for the father to keep the son at home and refuse to let him leave, the son would never have gained wisdom had the father done so.

166 posted on 02/28/2005 9:02:29 PM PST by supercat (For Florida officials to be free of the Albatross, they should let it fly away.)
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To: A CA Guy
Libertarian "lack" of morality and inclination to the darker sides of anarchy.

If your pro-abortion anti-gun boy Arnold is the antithesis of small-l libertarianism, I'd say I'm comfortable where I am.

167 posted on 02/28/2005 9:02:47 PM PST by jmc813 (Fiesta in the making at the Moontower)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

We don't need more laws, that's for sure.


168 posted on 02/28/2005 9:02:47 PM PST by Dashing Dasher ( "The difference between fiction and reality? Fiction has to make sense." - Clancy)
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To: nopardons

BINGO!!

"And it wasn't until '59 (I think),that obscenity laws were loosened a bit,and "LADY CHATTERLY'S LOVER " was able to be sold in America;just not everywhere in America,as some states would still not allow it to be sold. The floodgates were really opened,in the mid '60s though,vis-a-vis written material."

Even though the laws were loosened, there was no widespread smut like today bcoz ppl police themselves. The liberals destroy the blue laws but more importantly ppl's desire to police themselves. If it weren't for them, we would not have the cr@p we have today.

Also blue laws are a reflection of a ppl's consensus. If the ppl don't support it, there would be no such laws or the will to enforce it.


169 posted on 02/28/2005 9:02:54 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: Killborn
NO! They didn't "police themselves" at all...governments ( local,state, AND federal)n laws did that.

People,with enough money and/or connections were buying porn/erotica even with those laws,for centuries here.It was just underground and not out in the open,as it is today.

170 posted on 02/28/2005 9:07:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

We can bring back those laws but if ppl are unwilling to obey it, it's a lost cause.

On the flip side, with no laws, if the ppl don't want smut, it will be marginalized and gradually taken out of society.

We have to take AM. back the same way libs did, getting public support and opinion.


171 posted on 02/28/2005 9:08:40 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: Redcloak
That is an urban legend; the opposite is true.

Sorry, but Brothel owners got the courts to force German unemployment agencies to accept Brothel adds. No urban legend. The respected London Telegraph reported on it, as did other major papers:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml

And now, a woman has been told her unemployment insurance will not be paid if she does not become a whore.

172 posted on 02/28/2005 9:09:09 PM PST by curiosity
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To: jmc813
Arnold is doing what Gray Davis, Bustamante or McC could not do, lead and get elected by a vast majority of the state.

He is holding the Democrat legislators feet to the fire far more than previous Governors have. He's doing pretty good considering the mess he came in with.

He is what I said he is, a good first step needed for California at this time. He is not a complete answer, just a beginning.
173 posted on 02/28/2005 9:10:41 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: curiosity

So if I video tape my wife and I having relations that would be immoral?


174 posted on 02/28/2005 9:11:51 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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To: FactsMatter
So if I video tape my wife and I having relations that would be immoral?

So long as you did not distribute it to anyone, I don't think so. As long as no one else views it, it does not violate the sanctity of your marraige.

175 posted on 02/28/2005 9:15:03 PM PST by curiosity
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To: supercat

In a perfect world, there are no laws, and everyone is free to do as he/she pleases because all do what is right.

In our present world, laws sometime are necessary to establish what is right and to keep an orderly society.

I'm sure the father of the prodigal son would have been outraged if the King/government of his day signed a decree making pornography legal.

No doubt the father would have thought that the King had lost his mind.


176 posted on 02/28/2005 9:23:50 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Killborn
How do you plan on "taking it back"? The libs did it was books,films,T.V.,music,theatre,radio,magazines,papers,the internet,a sicko president,lawyers,judges,and advertising.

Even some here are unwilling to refrain from filling the pockets of those engendering it all.

Noooooooooo...the ONLY way things are going to change,is when this pendulum swing goes even father and people rise up demanding laws and penalties,which I don't see happening all that soon.

177 posted on 02/28/2005 9:31:42 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Cedar
In our present world, laws sometime are necessary to establish what is right and to keep an orderly society.

Right. To what extent are those who would ban pornography even from adults who would wish to view it (i.e. as distinct from forbidding its public exhibition where it would be seen by non-consenting passers by) trying to do so because private usage interferes with orderly society, and to what extent are they trying to do so because it's wrong?

I would suggest that laws requiring things like model releases, etc. are more effective at minimizing the societal disrutptions caused by pornography than would be a complete ban. Perhaps you may disagree. But since human nature is what it is, I see prohibition as likely to cause more problems than it solves.

I'm sure the father of the prodigal son would have been outraged if the King/government of his day signed a decree making pornography legal.

Prostitution already existed; I don't see why pornography would be any worse.

178 posted on 02/28/2005 9:38:13 PM PST by supercat (For Florida officials to be free of the Albatross, they should let it fly away.)
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To: nopardons

We take back those institutions. One by one. And repeat what they did. Voila.

If we bring back blue laws, a Prohibition like disaster could occur because pron has become ingrained in the collective of many ppl. Laws can't simply be dished out at whim, they need to be created through a consensus of ppl. When ppl disapprove of such things, then laws can be established, but by then it might not be necessary.


179 posted on 02/28/2005 9:40:17 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: curiosity
And now, a woman has been told her unemployment insurance will not be paid if she does not become a whore.

By being on the dole, she's already a type of whore. If she doen't like the job she would be required to take, she can always go off welfare.

Basically, this woman is saying she's too good for a certain job, but not too good to mooch off the taxpayers.

I'd rather see her being screwed by the taxpayers than the other way around.

180 posted on 02/28/2005 9:46:57 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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