[furball4paws]

Here's some 80 year old work on speciation.

[furball4paws]

Evolution ping


Let's get these out of the way now.

1. It's only a hybrid (BS!)
2. It's a Russian - you can't trust them.
3. It's a communist, atheist scientist plot to undermine America. (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!)
4. When I see a fish giving birth to a dog, I'll believe it.
5. It's all Bush's fault.

[glock rocks]

Unfortunately, the new species had the root of a cabbage and the leaf of a radish, and therefore had no commercial value.

I'm not fully convinced it would be much better the other way around.

[jennyp]

Karpechenko witnessed the birth of a new species in the passage of only 3 plant generations. He named the new species Raphanobrassica. It was fully fertile and could not cross with either parent. Unfortunately, the new species had the root of a cabbage and the leaf of a radish, and therefore had no commercial value.

Thank you for posting this conclusive proof that evolution can only bring deterioration to what was previously good.

ONCE AGAIN CREATION IS PROVEN TRUE!!!

;-)

[ml/nj]

Here's some 80 year old work on speciation.

Which is curiously omitted in Coyne and Orr's Speciation (Published 2004).
I previously mentioned this book here

ML/NJ

[Ahban]

Genesis 1 is much more friendly to the idea of plant evolution than it is animal/human evolution. God said "Let THE EARTH bring forth....(three main plant types in order of ascending complexity)". When the animals are created it says God MADE them, then it says He Created man. It seems like there was far less involvement in plants than people.

[SunkenCiv]

"Unfortunately, the new species had the root of a cabbage and the leaf of a radish, and therefore had no commercial value."

Luckily, Lysenko showed how its cultivation range could be expanded indefinitely. ;')

[shubi]

Making Christians look stupid placemarker

[Rudder]

...some of the "sterile" hybrids produced a few viable seeds. These seeds were produced when the chromosome number spontaneously doubled. The doubling permitted the pairing of partner chromosomes and the formation of gametes with 1N=18.
Karpechenko witnessed the birth of a new species in the passage of only 3 plant generations.

'Yeah, but you still can't make a chicken out of an aardvark.'

Although data doesn't impress the creationists/ID, this little experiment is a slick demonstration of science at work.

[VadeRetro]

Another "For Dummies" resource on polyploidy.

Speciation by Polyploidy.

Filed under Speciation: Can New Species Arise?

[Vaquero]

I'm waiting for the viable mule of Heinlein's creation from "Time Enough for Love"

[Vaquero]

“God shmod! I want my monkey-man!”

[ml1954]

But corn still produces corn!!! HAHAHAHA!!! </YEC lunatic mode>

[Rudder]

Unfortunately, the new species had the root of a cabbage and the leaf of a radish, and therefore had no commercial value.

If that's all evolution can do then the hell with it. We should have a committee formed to arrive at a consensus about what type of species we want.

[Doctor Stochastic]

"Chromosomal Dissonance" would have been a more melodic title.

[bobdsmith]

Get back to me when scientists can turn a radish into a horse and I might just believe evolution.