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Opinion of Montessori education? (VANITY)
Self | 2.18.05 | Basselope

Posted on 02/18/2005 9:25:37 AM PST by Basselope

I am seeking advice and opinions about Montessori schools. We have a toddler and are starting to consider his educational options. While I know this is early in the game, it has also been brought to my attention that many private schools have waiting lists that are months or years long!

If anyone has had experience with the Montessori program for their youngsters (preschool, elementary, homeschooling with Montessori method, etc), I would be very grateful to read about it. I know there are other programs, such as Waldorf, but am not as familiar with that approach.

Thanks in advance.


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: earlychildhood; education; montessori; preschool; school; waldorf
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1 posted on 02/18/2005 9:25:39 AM PST by Basselope
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To: Basselope

I'd google both schools and compare them. But more importantly, take your child to observe both schools and listen and observe. Talk to the staffers. Both schools have much to offer and, in the end, it's what appeals to the standards you've set for your child in a safe and creative atmosphere.


2 posted on 02/18/2005 9:28:17 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Basselope

I have heard good reports about this kind of school from two other people, but I know nothing about it firsthand. I am skeptical, however, whenever one promotes the view that the problem with education is the lack of "innovative"
teaching format and method. Learning is hard work, and relatively few are willing to exert the effort required to learn, I have always found.


3 posted on 02/18/2005 9:29:26 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Basselope

Have you looked into any schools using the Carden approach?

My 5-year old daughter is in Kindergarten in a Carden-based private school - every single child (14 in the class) is reading and doing basic math... this is 4 months into Kindergarten.

Needless to say, I am impressed.

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the Montessori method.


4 posted on 02/18/2005 9:29:26 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Basselope

My sister is a Montessori teacher. Her three daughters all started in Montessori schools. One is still in it.

Her advice to me (I have a 3 month old) was: "A good method, but not for everybody. Some kids need more structure than Montessori provides."

My wife and I are going to homeschool, starting with a Montessori-type approach. We will then modify our style so that it more closely matches with the needs of our daughter.

There is a wealth of info on the web. Drop me a Freepmail if you need some places to start.


5 posted on 02/18/2005 9:30:13 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Basselope

My wife and I are considering a Montessori school for our daughter. We checked out the program a few months ago. We liked what we saw and have scheduled an interview in March.


6 posted on 02/18/2005 9:31:19 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Basselope

Buy the books. Read all of the Maria Montessori books that you can find. They will affect your whole approach to parenting, whether or not you go into Montessori School. My kid was Montessori taught at home and in school, and just went into performing arts school (at 13). It works.


7 posted on 02/18/2005 9:36:14 AM PST by lomitarocks
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To: Basselope

I think the quality of the teachers is more important than the theory. I visited a Montessori school one time. The teacher smoked on the playground and the children were allowed on very high playground equipment that was unsuited for young children.

Find something convenient to your house, safe, and run by people you feel comfortable about.

Visit a few times. Drop in once in a while to see what is going on.

I personally feel that the regular American nursery schools are good at encouraging socialization between the children. The kids shouldn't just be sitting there being talked to by the teacher. The focus should be on the kids interacting with each other. They should learn to play nicely, share, make things together.

Montessori was created to educate children in Italian slums to take care of themselves. It is adapted for America.

Yoor child should be safe and having fun with the other kids. This is not the time to teach the more advanced skills that begin in school. Most children will just be frustrated by the pressure.

They want to see their friends, play with the cool blocks and trucks, and try out the pre-school-sized gym equipment.

Watch out for dangerous playgrounds that are intended for older children or staff that are trying to make your kid do what he is not ready to do.

This is nursery school--not school.


8 posted on 02/18/2005 9:39:17 AM PST by Snapple
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To: Basselope; clee1
"A good method, but not for everybody. Some kids need more structure than Montessori provides."

I have heard the exact same thing.

9 posted on 02/18/2005 9:41:25 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.)
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To: Basselope
Highly recommend it. Our kids now 17 and 20 attended from preschool through 1st grade. Great teaching techniques, alot of one on one. Allows child to learn at their own pace. More advanced than regular preschool students.
10 posted on 02/18/2005 9:43:24 AM PST by newfrpr04
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To: Basselope

Since there is nothing to prevent a school from calling itself "Montessori" regardless of its actual operating principles, it would be good to check whatever the school claims against the descriptions set forth in reference sites like:

http://www.amshq.org/
http://www.montessori-ami.org/3amiusa/3aamiusa.htm
http://www.montessoriplus.org/school/method.htm

http://www.montessori-ami.org/ami.htm

Note that a school's claim to affiliation with one of these is no guarantee. Check the substance as well as the credentials.

A brief defn.

What is a Montessori school?

Early in the twentieth century, Dr. Maria Montessori, Italy's first woman physician, developed educational materials and methods based on her belief that children learn best by doing, not by passively accepting other people's ideas and pre-existing knowledge. It was an innovative learning idea and means the active personal pursuit of many different experiences: physical, social, emotional, cognitive. With the materials Montessori devised, an environment in which such learning takes place can be created.

Montessori believed learning should occur in multi-age classrooms where children at various stages of development learn from and with each other. Her developmentally appropriate approach was designed to fit each child instead of making each child fit the program. Montessori teachers believe that children learn more by touching, seeing, smelling, tasting, and exploring than by just listening. The success with children from all social strata and those with special needs has attracted wide interest.


11 posted on 02/18/2005 9:47:05 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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To: Basselope

You need to determine what would work best for your child. I'm avoiding montessori like the plague for my preschoolers because I question the logic of sending toddlers to "preschool" in the first place. Just call it "daycare" for a few hours a few days a week. I just want them to have fun at this time of life & also to learn to socialize with others-- the learning comes from their life experiences and mostly from their father and I. I abhor the idea of rushing to "educate" kids this early. They learn to read if you read to them. They learn to count when you count things with them. Etc.

However, for your child, you may find he/ she desires this sort of early structured learning. I have sought out two particular preschools in our area specifically because they DO NOT emphasize the academic part of preschool and they DO emphasize very active playtime (my kids are extremely active & exhausting). And even those have insane wait lists (another sign of how crazy people are-- WAIT LISTS for PRESCHOOL???).


12 posted on 02/18/2005 9:52:56 AM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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To: Basselope

Try the Ramsbotham method -- open books in quiet rooms with plenty of parental feedback.


13 posted on 02/18/2005 9:53:12 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Lil'freeper

We had a very bad experience with it. The teacher told us our son had ADD and recommended we have him evaluated and put on meds. Fortunately, I had more faith in my son than this loser. Pulled him out of Montessori and he went on to win the state Science Bowl during both his junior and senior years. He is now in college majoring in Chem E. Therefore, I don't recommend it, but I realize that could be an isolated experience.


14 posted on 02/18/2005 9:56:26 AM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: Basselope
It's all about humanistic teachings with a touch of high brow environmentalism.

What I have SEEN is kids that go there have NO structure in their daily routine. They OFTEN have trouble adjusting to a normal kindergarten. The people that run it are typically very snotty. The philosophy is based on some leftist French guy. I'll look up their site and except some of it.

I would NOT recommend them for anything.
15 posted on 02/18/2005 9:59:50 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Basselope

My daughter went to a Montessori school in San Francisco from preschool to first grade. I went back after my daughter's first grade year and told them that they should be sued for "excessive empowerment." I had required weekly conferences with my daughter's first grade teacher because Tina was a "child lawyer." Be careful to keep a firm hand on the reins. Disclaimer: Your mileage may vary.


16 posted on 02/18/2005 10:00:59 AM PST by kilowhskey
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My daughter went to a Montessori daycare, but honestly I don't know if it helped her or not, because she's a lot like me, and I'm wildly smart and artistic! Hee-hee!

But, I do know they start on phonics early, and I'd never known a real discipline problem they ever had, but that could be because of the teachers (who were all terrific, by the way).

Now, there was another Montessori place much closer to home I didn't care for; for one thing, there were way too many kids, 'cuz it was also a school; the other thing was, they wouldn't let me try out the place for a week; I had to make a big commitment before they'd even let us in the door. So I said "screw you".


17 posted on 02/18/2005 10:05:40 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: nmh

How long did your children attend?


18 posted on 02/18/2005 10:06:46 AM PST by lomitarocks
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To: Basselope

My only encounter with this type of school was a complaint against them on a parade float. They used Blue Star Banners as a border for their Children For Peace float. Not a single person at the school had a family member in the military.


19 posted on 02/18/2005 10:09:40 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Basselope
Someone else has already listed their website stuff.

I made one mistake the woman that started this touchy feeling unstructured environment is Dr Montessori.

I would NOT recommend it to anyone. When kids are little they thrive on structure and routine. Montessori strives for the opposite.

I'm not not familiar with the other approach you questioned.

Whatever school you decide on look for one where there IS structure and routine. Kids like this and need this. It helps them feel secure and not at loose ends.

The Montessori environment is not very forgiving. For example if you don't raise your hand you are asked to leave the "circle" at circle time. A friend of mine had her daughter in their school and she was very disappointed with them and took her out. She eventually learned to raise her hand later in the first week at school but there was such an issue made over this by her teacher that she didn't feel comfortable with the lack of grace given to a child as they learn this at 3 years old. Basically she was ostracized for the day.

She also didn't like the lack of structure. When kids come in they're supposed to go to these learning centers and "accomplish" learning tasks. Well when you're 3 or 4 years old they do drift alittle but part of the task of a pre school is to get your child more focused so when they enter school they can sit at their desk, pay attention and lean something useful.

Some parents leave them there for the whole day. They have an area with cots and they turn the lights out so they can nap. Well if the kid doesn't want to nap, they give the child a flashlight to "read" with as others rest.

My brush with them was amusing. I called them for a tour of their facility. Well it seems that no time they had available suited us and I also wanted to go there unannounced to see what they really do - they don't permit that. It was frustrating and I thought they were very snotty. I'm glad we didn't go there.
20 posted on 02/18/2005 10:16:13 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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