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To: Calpernia
So be patient with me.

No worries, Calpernia; you're doing great work :-)

I'm about to go eat supper, so I'll look at that closer later, but offhand I'd assume the National Alliance in the ANSWER-related list you give here is probably the same as the one from Post #23, rather than the 60s-era Alliance linked to SDS. Ramsey Clark has links to some anti-Semitic groups including both Nazi and Muslim groups, which I'd suspect may be how National Alliance and some of the other Nazi groups listed here got involved with ANSWER. PLP on the other hand probably is coming into ANSWER from the old SDS/New Left network. I think ANSWER is designed to pull subversive groups from a number of different areas--New Left/FREEZE, environmentalist, Nazi, Muslim--in under a common umbrella.

45 posted on 02/14/2005 2:42:23 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora

>>>I'm about to go eat supper, so I'll look at that closer later,

No problem. I'm cooking while doing this so I'm back and forth.

>>>>>I'd assume the National Alliance in the ANSWER-related list you give here is probably the same as the one from Post #23,

Yes, I also have a law enforcement site that agrees:

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/gangs/racial.html

Mentions that the National Alliance was inspired by Hitler. That is consistant with that statemtn in post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1341941/posts?page=25#25


>>>>rather than the 60s-era Alliance linked to SDS. Ramsey Clark has links to some anti-Semitic groups including both Nazi and Muslim groups, which I'd suspect may be how National Alliance and some of the other Nazi groups listed here got involved with ANSWER.

This is where I reference the research from Leonard Magruder:

http://www.i-served.com/v-v-a-r.org/022104_KerryTooNaive_part1.html

Magruder shows that the 60's era ANSWER and SDS are todays Not in Our Name. Which shows it is the same groups.

Quote from link:

(snip)

Among those who signed the various documents represented here, basically the major leaders of the anti-war movement, we list the following:


· Al Hubbard - Vietnam Veterans Against the War

· Jane Fonda - actress

(both signed the People’s Peace Treaty of 1971)

· Noam Chomsky, MIT

· Rev. William Sloan Coffin, Jr. Yale

· Rennie Davis, May Day Collective

· Rev. Daniel Berrigan,S.J.

· Dave Dellinger, People’s Coalition for Peace and Justice

· Daniel Ellsberg - MIT

· Richard Falk - Princeton

· Tom Hayden - Berkeley

· Abbie Hoffman - WPAX, NewYork

· Sidney Peck - People’s Coalition for Peace and justice

· Bobby Seale- Black Panther Party

· Benjamin Spock, doctor

· Gloria Steinem - author

· George Wald, biologist, Havard

· Cora Weiss - Women Strike for Peace

(Many of the people who signed the various documents in this book appeared again as signers of the recent “Not In Our Name” ad that appeared in papers all over the country, denouncing Bush and the wars on terrorism and Iraq.)




Now this is consistant with another post I had pinged you to on another thread.

I had pinged you to a thread with the The VAIW run by old VVAW members using a new name:

Jan Barry, a Vietnam veteran, is a journalist living in New Jersey. Jan is also an editor of VAIW and a contributing editor of Intervention Mag.

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=jan+barry+vvaw&btnG=Google+Search

VVAW was founded by six Vietnam veterans, including Jan "Barry" Crumb. . .


VVAW was the SDS group that protested the Vietnam War. VAIW is the group protesting the Iraq war.


46 posted on 02/14/2005 3:09:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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