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Attention Bird Gardening Enthusiasts
self | February 12, 2005 | sweetliberty

Posted on 02/12/2005 9:27:14 AM PST by sweetliberty

With Spring just around the corner, at least here in the southeast, it's time to think about spending more time outdoors and making our yards and porches more pleasant places to be. FReepers have such a wide variety of interests and talents, I thought it might be fun and educational to do a thread for bird and garden enthusiasts. I see a fair amount of discussion on some of the threads about gardening and landscaping, but not too much that is specific to gardening for the birds.

I've pretty much always had a bird feeder or two around, and that number has grown since I moved into a place last summer that has a big yard. I have a fair variety of birds and I have begun to think about developing it specifically to attract more species, not only for the enjoyment of watching the birds, but also to control natural pests that are prevalent in this part of the country, without resorting to pesticides. I know that the right combination of flora can discourage certain pests and also attract birds that will help keep the pest population down. I would love to hear from FReepers who are experienced at creating such a balance. I think it would also be fun to have a place to share our experiences as we develop them. I know there's lots of links out there with useful information and I make use of them from time to time, but it's just not the same as having discussions on a forum where we have experts on everything. And I don't know of any place else on the web so animated by wit, along with wisdom, on just about any topic.


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KEYWORDS: attractingbirds; backyardbirds; birdfeeding; birdgardens; birdwatching; gardening; insectcontrol; naturalpestcontrol
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
"I used 100lbs of seed today"

That is a LOT of bird seed! How often do you have to replenish it?

361 posted on 02/20/2005 6:43:57 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks for the picture! That's a lovely rose! Is that a hybrid tea? It reminds me a bit of HotCocoa. I have a lot of varieties of roses with perennials and flowers for the birds too. I love them because of the continuous blooms. Iris' with roses must be gorgeous. I have been planting a lot of clematis with them the past year. For the most part, now with all the birds, I look for flowers and plants that benefit them.
362 posted on 02/20/2005 6:45:15 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: Conservababe

I meant to ping you to #351.


363 posted on 02/20/2005 6:53:20 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: GodBlessUSA

No, it wasn't a tea rose. Probably a hybrid though.


364 posted on 02/20/2005 6:55:26 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
I think this thread is a great idea too.

We live in rural W. PA, close to WVA and we get a wide variety of birds including: Hummingbirds, hawks, herons, bluebirds, cardinals, gold finches, bluejays, woodpeckers, sparrows (and all manner of little brown and grey birds), geese, ducks, robins, doves, little blue herons, crows (of course), ring-necked pheasants, turkeys, and the occaisional egret. We once had a scarlet tanager that was so red it hurt your eyes to look at it.

I love sitting on the porch and watching the hawks and the crows fight it out over territory. When a hawk shows up the crows will initiate a "come to Jesus meeting" and soon the trees are full of cackling black birds and the dogfight is off and running.

Our dogs take care of the squirrels, rabbits and gophers pretty well and even keep the deer at a respectable distance. my border collie loves rabbit marinated in its own juices for about a week before she eats it, we pretty much keep her outside all summer because she tends to carry a funk about w/ her.

I can't wait for the weather to break so I can get out in the yard, start turning over dirt, and planting stuff. I've been planting fruit trees and want to put some berries in this year also to try and attract some more birds.

thanks for starting this thread! I hope it keeps going.

365 posted on 02/20/2005 7:10:27 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Pietro
Our dogs take care of the squirrels,

LOL! I see you have Border Collies, too.

Do your squirrels show up just to hang out in the trees and tease the dogs?

Mine sure do!

366 posted on 02/20/2005 7:43:06 AM PST by MamaTexan (Forgive me fellow FReepers....for I have dial-up!)
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To: sweetliberty
I believe it was called "Fragrant Cloud."

Oh! Those do smell great!

Here's a Double Delight I had in Arizona;

I love roses, especially Hybrid Teas!

367 posted on 02/20/2005 7:50:29 AM PST by MamaTexan (Forgive me fellow FReepers....for I have dial-up!)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Sounds great! Every once in a while we get a flock of birds that I think is unusual. For instance, we once had about two dozen blue jays and the same thing happened with blue birds. Really neat!


368 posted on 02/20/2005 8:02:23 AM PST by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I know what you mean about the bugs ,I am the same way,but I find Stick bugs and praying mantis's fascinating.In fact we found a praying mantis a few years back and brought it home and put it in a bug cage thingy.It got out one night and my cat made dinner out of it,all we could find were the legs.LOL.

I love this thread,because we all come up with need suggestions and answers on how to improve our yards.
369 posted on 02/20/2005 8:11:37 AM PST by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: MamaTexan
Beautiful. I love some of the 2 colored ones, and the blue and purple ones. Oh heck, I like most all of them! Here's one of my favorite rose pictures. We would get some truly strange weather combinations in Colorado.

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370 posted on 02/20/2005 8:15:46 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
"I love this thread,because we all come up with need suggestions and answers on how to improve our yards."

Yep. That was the idea. That, and to post neat links and pictures.

371 posted on 02/20/2005 8:18:13 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty

I want to thank you again for starting this thread and i hope that it will continue.I love the picture of the blooming Rose in the snow.

We used to live in Colorado,when my hubby was still in the Army,so I know what you mean about the weather .


372 posted on 02/20/2005 8:21:46 AM PST by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: sweetliberty
Oh heck, I like most all of them!

LOL! The hardest part of planting roses is figuring out how many you can plant, and which ones it will be!

There are only 4 in the rose bed right now. Peace (the original pink/yellow bicolor), Mirandy (dark red), New Day (pale Yellow) and Brigadoon, which starts out as a lavender/dark pink but develops a yellow/white center as the bush gets older.

That's a great picture! It always seems so weird to have a blooming flower covered in snow!

Having spent some time in Colorado myself, I'd have trouble picking between it and Texas for instant freeze-your-patootie-off weather.

I have a website bookmarked that had a wonderful picture selection of Hybrid Teas, but their server must be down. I'll post the link anyway, in case someone wants to check it out later.

http://www.rose-roses.com/catalog/hybridtea.html

373 posted on 02/20/2005 8:42:07 AM PST by MamaTexan (Forgive me fellow FReepers....for I have dial-up!)
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To: MamaTexan

Sorry Guys..linky no worky, you'll have to cut and paste. :(


374 posted on 02/20/2005 8:48:52 AM PST by MamaTexan (Forgive me fellow FReepers....for I have dial-up!)
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To: MamaTexan
Definite with jacket, thanks! I've looked and I saw that it's 79 one day and 60/50's another. I know this seems like a silly question but do you think it gets hot enough for short sleeves or are light weight long sleeves, ok? I want him comfortable and not pack so much to drag along. Plus, I'm trying to get out of digging in summer stuff and doing extra laundry. :)
375 posted on 02/20/2005 9:35:16 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman
I love seeing the Praying Mantis too. I'm tempted to buy them. They sell eggs locally. I imagine the birds could eat the eggs before they hatch though. I buy the live ladybugs. My daughter has a great time playing and then releasing them. I won't tell her I see the Jays coming in after she has released them.
376 posted on 02/20/2005 9:48:56 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: GodBlessUSA
I have lots of Ladybugs in my yard naturally,I guess since we don't use pesticides they like to hang out in my yard.LOL.
377 posted on 02/20/2005 10:00:21 AM PST by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: GodBlessUSA
do you think it gets hot enough for short sleeves or are light weight long sleeves, ok?

Looks like Dallas has a cold front coming through Tuesday night/Wednesday morning, so I'd go with the long sleeve shirts and maybe a lightweight sweater along with the jacket if you have the room.

Don't know how long he plans to be here, but that should give him a pretty good choice for next week, at least.

Besides, when it comes to Texas weather, there ARE no silly questions. ;)

378 posted on 02/20/2005 10:20:22 AM PST by MamaTexan (Forgive me fellow FReepers....for I have dial-up!)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman; GodBlessUSA

One year I had a spathyphyllum on the porch all summer and one
evening after I brought it in in the fall hundreds of little clear bugs started coming out of it. A mantis had made a nest in the plant! they were so small and so many! after that I was very careful. The nest looked like a large wad of brown chewing gum on the stem. I have also noticed mantis seem to stay in one area-for instance I had one that inhabited the upper leaves of a sunflower. Every day you could go out and find him there. Its amazing the little habitats we have in our yards.


379 posted on 02/20/2005 11:04:03 AM PST by I_saw_the_light (Grackles, Grackles, they raise my hackles.)
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To: Mrs.Nooseman; sweetliberty; GodBlessAmerica; All

At the garden show yesterday, I figured out what kind of shrub I will be looking to plant for a border of my sidewalk in the garden. Nandina. I'll plant 4 down each side which will leave enough space in between for some varieties of annuals for color, and texture. I am also going to try some hosta this year.

Anyone plant any of these two plants? Any suggestions. From what I've read and been told, they are pretty easy/hardy to grow, just what I'm looking for:)

I'm wanting to get "some" perinnials, but leave room for annuals for varity, and to change it some each year.

Becky


380 posted on 02/20/2005 3:26:57 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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