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To: Logophile; Yo-Yo
Logophile, I recognize that some areas require significant research, the field changes rapidly, and the number of books required in some specialized areas is so small that the per unit cost of a text has to be high. These aren't the books I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about are freshman and sophmore level courses, entry level, where the content hasn't varied significantly in quite a few years. My daughter teaches math at the college where I teach. I decided to take a trigonometry course, just to shake off some rust. The cost of the text, which was about 300 or so pages, was $125. This was in 2003, and the text was a 2003 edition. I asked the textbook publisher how often this text was revised. He said every two to three years. I found a previous version of the text, and the graphics and assignments were changed slightly, but other than that, the only real change was to alter the text so that the page numbers didn't match. It was strictly a change made to prevent resale of used books. Entry level trigonometry simply doesn't change enough to require a new version of the text every two years.

The "scam" is implemented on several levels, and has several components. The first is that the companies which produce the texts know that in a two to three year period, text sales will go down because of the supply of used texts on the market. Therefore, they revise books that do not need revising, simply to keep sales up. There's nothing wrong with this, except that the student is caught in a monopoly situation. Specific texts are required for specific courses. Many of these courses are required for specific majors. Therefore, the student MUST buy this book, no matter how ridiculously it is priced. Second, the college either runs the bookstore or leases it to an entity that runs it for them. The markup on the book after it reaches the bookstore is generally exhorbitant because, once again, the college has a monopoly on resales. Very large colleges, like the University of Texas, where I went, sometimes have competing private bookstores, but smaller colleges generally have the field to themselves.

I've noticed that college professors (no offense) are frequently totally indifferent to the cost burden on the student. Many instructors I talk to have no idea how much the textbook they assign costs the student and do not consider text pricing at all when selecting assigned books. I KNOW that there are texts for basic Trig that cost less than $125. But, like medicine, the people making the decisions simply do not consider the price when selecting the text. Students frequently complain to me about classes where the instructor requires several textbooks, sometimes each one costing $100 or more, and make no assignments out of some of the texts.

Some instructors assign their own texts to students, although I know several colleges that prohibit this practice. I've heard rumors of textbook manufacturers kicking money back to deans to assign specific texts, but I've never seen this actually happen. According to what I've heard, department heads, who decide on texts for multiple sections are generally the targets, because most colleges don't allow individual instructors to select a text, but require all sections to use the same one. I don't think I've ever heard of individual instructors getting kickbacks, but book publishers are a lot like pharmecutical sales reps, and I will admit holding up some manufacturers for Powerpoint presentations, instructor texts, and test banks.

Scam was probably not a good word to use. Inefficient, overpriced, and done with total indifference to the needs of the students would be more accurate. It's not one big thing, it's a bunch of little things. As a professor, you may be able to shed more light on it, but that's how I see it.

52 posted on 02/01/2005 8:17:48 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: Richard Kimball
Scam was probably not a good word to use. Inefficient, overpriced, and done with total indifference to the needs of the students would be more accurate. It's not one big thing, it's a bunch of little things. As a professor, you may be able to shed more light on it, but that's how I see it.

With colleges having internet homework and assignments, text book assignments that are downloaded will come. The cost will be as high as authored books but the students will be saved a trip to the book store. In the uncontrolled market copyright and duplication issues will remain, but people are likely working on it.

53 posted on 02/01/2005 8:23:48 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Richard Kimball
I think you have a good grasp of the economics and politics of textbooks. I would just add a few observations of my own:

1. The faculty. Keep in mind that it is the professor who ultimately decides which book is ordered, not the publisher. The various publishers must compete with each other for the attention of the professor. If they want sales, they must respond to what the faculty say they want.

That explains, at least in part, why books on trigonometry or other established subjects undergo frequent changes. If the faculty say they want this or that topic included, you can bet it will be added to the next edition. (No one ever seems to want topics deleted, so each edition is longer than the one before.) The faculty want four colors and glossy paper? That is what they will get.

In math, science, and engineering, professors often want new homework problems to assign. Otherwise, students will just copy the homework from previous classes.

2. Used books. You are right that the used-book market greatly influences the marketing decisions by the publishers, who know that they must make their profit on the first-year sales. (As you are aware, but most students are not, neither the publisher nor the author makes anything on the resale of a book.) I believe that the high price of textbooks is largely the result of the used-book market. I also believe there may be a better pricing strategy that would avoid the problem.

Parenthetically, I must say that it has always struck me as strange that my students clamor for open-book exams, arguing that in the "real world" they will always be able to look things up; then they turn around and sell back their textbooks at the end of the semester. I always kept my textbooks, and still find them useful.

3. Alternative media. The question that started this thread was, "Why only textbooks and not CDs?" That is, why don't publishers make their books available in alternative media? The answer is obvious in light of the controversy over music down-loading. As soon as a textbook is available in digital form, there will be no more sales. At this point, no one has proposed a solution to this problem.
55 posted on 02/02/2005 7:45:55 AM PST by Logophile
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