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To: theDentist
Please tell me which of these are not truthful:

True- A bunch of goofballs thought a paranoid dolt named David "Koresh" was a reincarnation of Christ...

False- they were attacked at their home. All that was needed was to wait for Koresh to go to town and then arrest him.(they) hunkered down and bunkered up, and refused to let authorities arrest Koresh for some weapons charges....

False- the BATF rolls up with a cattle trailer full of agents and start blasting away FIRST, the Davidians were defending themselves.Pot shots fired back and forth....

True and False- yes the order was given but the plan was to leave no survivors and destroy the evidence that would prove the fedscum screwed-upBill and Reno gave the go-ahead to gas them after 50(?) or so days in hopes they'd give up....

False- the fedscum pumped in CS gas and then tossed in an incendiary device igniteing the place.Koresh thought it was time for the armageddon blues so he and his idiot followers set fire to their compound, burning itself and themselves up....

True-Some died of inhalation, some smothered, some of gunshot wounds....

Which of the above is not a fact? Did not happen?

68 posted on 01/21/2005 5:14:13 PM PST by ChefKeith (Apply here to be added to the NASCAR Ping List, Daytona is comming soon...)
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To: ChefKeith
Well, now we get to those things I stated you say are false. Let's see:

False- they were attacked at their home.
Their home was a compound. It is described so by pretty much everybody, including former members of the group. There was the Church, 3(?) wooden buildings, and a buried bunker where they stored supplies, and later slept.

All that was needed was to wait for Koresh to go to town and then arrest him.
They could have. But the fact remains, the BATF tried to arrest him at the compound. By arresting him there, instead of in town, they would have the ability to search for other weapons and/or contraband.

False- the BATF rolls up with a cattle trailer full of agents and start blasting away FIRST, the Davidians were defending themselves.
So, there was a gun battle, both sides shooting at one another. I didn't say Koresh's people fired first. I didn't know who did. AFter the initial assault, throughout the 51 days both sides fired shots back and forth.

True and False- yes the order was given but the plan was to leave no survivors and destroy the evidence that would prove the fedscum screwed-up
Please provide your documentation they planned to leave no survivors. Was it a written plan or oral?

Bill and Reno gave the go-ahead to gas them after 50(?) or so days in hopes they'd give up....
False- the fedscum pumped in CS gas....
So you agree, Bill and Reno gave the go ahead to use gas

....and then tossed in an incendiary device igniteing the place.

Whether the FBI fired the place or koresh's followers ignited it is still very much at question. So much of the evidence at the compound was destroyed after the fire and before proper forensic evidence was gathered. There were tapes introduced at the trial that Koresh's people coordinated their fires. (I personally think both sides deliberately started fires; feds in hope to smoke/scare them out, and Koresh's folks to avoid capture.)

74 posted on 01/21/2005 6:00:56 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: ChefKeith
True-Some died of inhalation, some smothered, some of gunshot wounds....

You left out the now proven fact that someone, FBI, Delta Force, or BATF, was firing fully automatic weapons at people attempting to leave the burning building, forcing them back into the flames. The FBI's own Foward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) camera, mounted on an aircraft circling the Waco compound caught all of this on tape, including snipers being released from the tanks, taking up offensive positions, the muzzle flash of their assault weapons as they fired at fleeing Branch Davidians.

The FBI claimed the regular flashing (at the exact rate of fire of the automatic weapons implicated) was mere glint from the sun reflecting on shiny objects on the ground, ignoring the physics of how these reflective objects seemed to reflect the sun to the aircraft, no matter WHERE the aircraft was in relationship to object and sun. The world's foremost expert on FLIR interpretation, Carlos Ghigliotti, was asked to look at the tapes and declared them "automatic gunfire" but his report was never produced as he was found suspiciously dead at his equipment a week later.

Check out the FLIR tape information for yourself: WACO FLIR

More: Statement of Physicist Allard:

78 posted on 01/21/2005 8:19:36 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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