Posted on 01/19/2005 9:51:40 AM PST by Mo1

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Actually quite pretty from a couple of thousand miles away though.
Awwww....quit your grumbling. Besides, that's my line.
I've never forgotten my birthday, but twice I had forgotten my true age, and it happened last birthday. I was thinking I would be 58. My husband told me that no, I would only be 57. Now that was a nice birthday gift, to be sure. LOL
Rule #1 of caving: never go caving alone. Rule #2: take plenty of spare batteries, matches/lighters and candles. What a dumb@ss. Natural selection at work. He was fortunate.
I agree... but unfortunate people suffering from depression don't reason well!
Mr Josuat-Verges left his home on 18 December suffering from depression and telling his wife he wanted to be alone for a time, local newspapers said.
That is funny when you have to subtract the year you were born and the current year! LOL
Oh! Poor weiner dogs, LOL!
Well, it is better than some women I know who have to look up their birth certificate when they get confused. They've been lying on their drivers license for years. LOL
Efforts Under Way to Create Gay District SPOKANE, Wash
By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS, Associated Press Writer
SPOKANE, Wash. - Gay activists in this staid Washington city are planning to create a neighborhood of gay-oriented homes, businesses and nightlife a development religious conservatives contend would clash with Spokane's family-centered culture.
"A gay mecca is not what we'd like to see Spokane marketed as," said Penny Lancaster, director of Community Impact Spokane, a network of evangelical Christians. "I'd rather see us promoted as a conservative, family-oriented community without any reference to sexual orientation."
But proponents of the plan say a gay district would signal that Spokane is tolerant and progressive.
"There is a very large gay population here," said Bonnie Aspen, a business owner who arrived with her partner two years ago to escape the congestion of the San Francisco Bay area.
Spokane which in trendy Seattle is shorthand for tragically unhip has long been dominated by conservative politics that stem from its history as a mining and farming center. But it also has a large core of Democrats and libertarians who share the West's live-and-let-live philosophy.
Most of all, the city identifies itself as a good place to raise a family and opponents contend that's at odds with the image of a gay district.
The idea for the district has roots in the theories of Richard Florida, an economist whose 2002 book "The Rise of the Creative Class" contends the economy of the future will be created by the 38 million workers who toil in creative industries.
Florida, a Carnegie Mellon University professor, said members of the creative class consider recreation, culture and ethnic diversity, including a large population of gays, as central to where they live. Places like New York, Boston, San Francisco and Seattle have those qualities. Places like Spokane generally do not.
Even though they face little discrimination, gays stay under the radar in Spokane, said Aspen, a member of the Inland Northwest Business Alliance, an association of gay and gay-friendly businesses that is pushing the idea.
"Visibility equals freedom," Aspen said. "Invisibility we have dealt with all our life."
She predicted a gay district will exist within the next year or two.
With about 200,000 residents, Spokane has little history of gay activism, other than an effort a few years ago that added homosexuals as a protected class to its human rights ordinance.
Tom Reese, an economic development officer for Spokane, said city government is not exactly pushing the notion of a gay district, but they don't oppose it either.
"It is our desire to create an environment where diversity and different interests and lifestyles of all types can flourish," Reese said.
No public funds will be used to create the district, which is dependent on developers, Aspen said. No location has been announced.
Spokane already has a gay newspaper, Stonewall News Northwest, and some businesses that cater to gay residents. It has had an openly gay member of the City Council.
But creating a district is still important, said Marvin Reguindin, owner of a Spokane graphic design firm.
"It would help youth struggling with their sexuality to realize they don't have to go away to a big city to be gay. You can be gay right here in Spokane," he said.
I am one of the ones who had to subtract because I would get confused this was after my sickness since than I have remembered!:)
I was talking about several of my relatives who have been shaving a few years off over time, even to lying on their documents. Over time, they actually forgot their true age and actually had to dig the birth certificate out of the important paper storage. And I swear to you girl, I don't think the new husband of my aunt even knows within a few years of her true age. LOL
'Braveheart' Becomes Role Model for Christian Men
By Nigel Hunt
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Movies like "Braveheart" and "Legends of the Fall" are on the viewing list for men in a growing Christian movement that calls for them to throw off their "nice guy" personas and emulate warriors.
The book which inspired the movement, John Eldredge's "Wild at Heart," has already sold 1.5 million copies in English and been translated into 16 languages, most recently Korean.
Eldredge believes many Christian men have become bored, "really nice guys" and invites them to rediscover passion by viewing their life's mission as having a battle to fight, an adventure to live and a beauty to rescue.
"The modern era has brought up immense conveniences but at what price. The human heart is desperate for something more than a quicker serving of popcorn," Eldredge said in a recent interview.
Eldredge calls on men to be prepared to take risks and rediscover their dreams but does not provide a specific route to find, for example, an adventure to live. Career, marriage and family become heroic quests rather than chains which bind.
He focuses on how men can become less passive and "engage" those around them, particularly their wives and children.
"The guy who sits in front of the television is unengaged. That man is a bad man. They (children) need engagement whether it is playing on the floor with your 1-year-old or tougher games when they are 15 (years old)," he said.
Eldredge said he has been astounded by the response to his book with momentum gathering steadily since the book was published in 2001 by Christian publisher Thomas Nelson.
Men have been flocking to retreats and forming small groups to study it. Some are organized by Eldredge and his team, but many are just informally arranged by readers of the book. These groups have sprung up as far away Kazakhstan and even among tribes along the Amazon River in South America.
"It has become something of a grass-roots wildfire," Eldredge said.
BRAVEHEART SWORD
Jim Chase, an advertising copywriter from La Crescenta, California, has had a replica of the sword actor Mel Gibson used when he played legendary Scottish warrior William Wallace in "Braveheart" hanging above his desk since attending a Wild at Heart retreat with 350 other men last year.
"It is just a reminder that we are in a battle every day. It can be just facing boredom and routine, but it is a battle," Chase said.
"Life isn't just about going to work and sitting in front of a computer and bringing in as much money as you can. We all have a story. God has written a story and we are meant to find out what the story is and live it," Chase said.
He said, for example, that the book inspired him to teach his 15-year-old son to ride a motorcycle.
Eldredge, who is a trained counselor and worked for 13 years for Christian organization Focus on the Family, said we are currently living in a "fatherless age" with many men having abandoned their children if not physically then emotionally.
His own father was an alcoholic who after some good years when Eldredge was young became increasingly distant. Chase had lost his father, who he described as "very cold," just a few months before he attended the retreat.
"A lot of what it brings out is how much you are impacted by your own father. What role model he set for you and how God relates to us as the big father," Chase said.
Eldredge said he used characters such as Mel Gibson's warrior Wallace in "Braveheart" because the characters often embody men who are engaging their passions by fighting noble battles, rescuing women and finding adventure.
CHRISTIAN CRITICS
The movement has stirred controversy, attracting criticism from some Christian leaders who fear he may just be reinforcing stereotypes.
While some women have welcomed suddenly receiving flowers and more attention from their husbands, in the long-term there are concerns about the impact on marriages.
"The basic premise that men need a princess to rescue has set back male female relationship in the church by 30 years. He sanctifies a mythological view of 1950s malehood," said Chapman Clark, associate professor of youth, family, and culture at Fuller Seminary in Pasadena, California.
"It is destructive (to marriages) in the long-term," Clark said, adding that treating women as a figurine rather that the personal image of God will hurt relationships over time.
Clark said Eldredge had tapped into an angst among middle-aged white men who are dissatisfied with their lives and for whom depression had become a very serious problem.
Eldredge acknowledged the movement would be judged based on the impact it has on family life.
"The real test of this ("Wild at Heart") is does it make life better for women? Does it make life better for children? We have received letters from women who are immensely grateful. Marriages have been restored," Eldredge said.
Gran, those pics make me grateful that all I have to put up with here is the fog. and the rain.
You've got sun? It's still foggy here.
What the hell ever happened to 1940s malehood???
Are we ALL dead????
.....Westy.....
I got the scooter out and took a jaunt around the neighborhood..Went up to the shopping center and got an espresso at the Bean, then went checking on the whereabouts of a bus stop I can use to get down to Renton...
If all goes according to plan I should fall over soon and not be able to get back up...lol
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.....Westy...
lol! leave it to you, sl, to find a wiener dog in the snow!!!
Oh, and I am just curious as to why you need a bus stop? Is your car broken down?
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