Posted on 01/19/2005 9:51:40 AM PST by Mo1
Good morning .38! How come they get as much as someone who worked his/her entire life???? Will this change with the revamped soc sec?
I think I said that. I was just trying to clarify - a lot of people think that SSI is Social Security. SSI isn't paid out based on work history and earnings, as you said, it's paid to anyone who can figure out how to apply for it, even if they've just gotten off the boat.
What did you do? Ignore him, tell him off, keep flying your flag? We have people annoyed by other's Bibles, but so far I am allowed to have my crosses and flags... though it is a private office so ...
They must have training courses, word-of-mouth, and/or imm lawyers to tell these people how to get every one of our benefits.
SSI isn't paid out based on work history and earnings, as you said, it's paid to anyone who can figure out how to apply for it, even if they've just gotten off the boat.
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Yep - you could have knocked me over with a feather when I learned of this outrage many years ago.
I really know nothing about how they figure out how much the checks are. I just know that it's a big program and that it's administered by the Soc. Sec. admin. I have heard it discussed a few times on the local talk radio shows, when the various programs come up. I know that with Soc. Sec. you do have to have sufficient quarters worked in order to receive SS checks or disability checks. We get statements every year or so with a listing of quarters worked and annual earnings. I actually found it a little amusing to see how little I earned when I was working part time during college, and my summer jobs, when I was 18-22. Minimum wage in those days was pretty minimum.
That's another discussion, but I get really burned about the hand-wringing over minimum wage. Who expects to earn only the minimum wage all their lives and try to live on it? It was pretty obvious to me at the get-go that the MW was an entry level wage - you can certainly work your way up, learn some marketable skills, be reliable and hard-working, and you can expect to do far better than the MW. Geeze.
Let's not forget the yummy and affordable Chilean wines, too.
And that's why it engenders so much outrage when people hear about it.
You're drawing breath and you need money? Okey dokey, here ya go. Free medical care, too. Food stamps? No problem.
Added a "Jihad This" poster.
Ultimately we were both laid off.
I know, I'm a broken record, but when my parents got off the boat, they had to have a sponsor, speak English, know the Constitution, my grandparents have jobs lined up, and no welfare etc. In fact, they waited for years in war-torn Europe to be admitted to the US (I have some relatives in Canada, Australia, and South America too). Women and children came first. They were true refugees, unlike today where anyone seems to be able to claim political oppression and we'll give them good pay.
Title XVI of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. § 1381 et seq.), Supplemental Security Income ("SSI") program, provides payments of benefits from general revenues to the needy, aged, blind and disabled. Title II of the Act (42 U.S.C. § 401 et seq.), provides benefits from trust funds to retired and disabled individuals, their survivors and dependents. Over $11.5 billion per month to almost 34 million beneficiaries is paid by SSA under these two programs alone.
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Worker harder out there, Queen. ;-)
I have a bottle of Chilean chardonnay in the 'fridge right now! Funny thing is, it was more expensive than a lot of the local Chards, but it was on sale at a comparable price. I haven't pulled the cork yet so I can't report back on how it tastes, maybe this weekend.
Uh oh!!!!
Charming.
Huh?
You both ended up laid off!
Yeah. So?
It was worth it!
They really didn't have all that much choice, he had 8 years seniority on me. To get him they had to get me.
(BTW- the company has since folded)
Yep about MW. I'm still paying off my grad school loans because even my undergrad degree didn't get me far enough. When I was 15 1/2 and got my first non-babysitting/yard sale/pamphlet giver type job at Pier 39, I was thrilled. I think that's the only time I technically worked MW though I definitely had some low income jobs.
My grandparents got off the boat at Ellis Island, and had to go through the whole drill. My mother didn't even speak English till she started school, but she learned - no English as a Second Language classes back then. Now she doesn't even have a German accent. No welfare checks, no food stamps, no free medical care, no nothing. My grandfather, however, was an intelligent and hard-working man. He started his own business. He became a town leader a well-respected businessman. He was the first fire chief of the town he settled in, a small town in North Dakota. While they weren't rich, they had enough that they weathered the Great Depression fairly well, and were able to help out many of their neighbors.
My grandparents came here to escape the Bolsheviks - my grandparents lived in German colonies in Russia. They had a number of siblines each that didn't make it out - they had their assets seized and were marched off to Siberia. They didn't fare very well.
Wow, well that's good that you don't mind... My first thought had been they are not supposed to retaliate for someone speaking up. But, it goes to show that the company went under...
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