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SURVIVOR: PALAU - Official Thread
none | 18 January, 2005 | Cuz_it_aint_their_money

Posted on 01/18/2005 3:55:31 AM PST by cuz_it_aint_their_money

SURVIVOR: PALAU

premiering Thursday, February 17 at 8 pm ET/PT.

Greetings Survivor FReeks!

Its time once again for a new season of Survivor!

“Twenty Americans are stranded in Palau, the South Pacific paradise some call the 8th natural wonder of the world, where colorful wildlife, dense jungles and an underwater world beyond belief are haunted by the wreckage and remnants of World War II.
From the beginning, the game will be changed in a dramatic way: everything the Survivors have come to expect will be wiped out in the first 10 minutes.
Who will outwit, outplay, and outlast all others in Palau?”

According to the official website, there will only be one tribe (at least for starters) and three contestants will get the boot during the first show.

Should be interesting!


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To: CheneyChick

I think you're right. From the previews of next week's episode, it looks like Steph goes on the offensive. The question is, however, whether she will be able to turn the others against Tom. The dynamics are kind of against her given that the others are all original Koror members and have had such a long time to bond and form allegiences.


841 posted on 04/22/2005 10:49:49 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: CheneyChick
I liked Tom up until last night's episode. He caved in and was going to vote Stephanie out. He practically said so when Jeff asked him if Stephanie was the type he would want on his team as a co-worker. He said yes for work, but this is a game....

True, but that was before Stephanie's emotional plea to remain in the game, and before Janu's inane comments about not caring if she stayed around. It appeared to me from Tom's reaction that he was having second thoughts. I wish Jeff wouldn't have pushed Janu out of the game, because it would have been really interesting to see how the vote would have gone. I think Tom (and perhaps Ian) probably would have crossed back over and voted for Janu. But we shall never know...

842 posted on 04/22/2005 1:43:20 PM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Slicksadick; Lee'sGhost

Had Tome done such a stupid thing..his wife would kill him when he got back home..


843 posted on 04/22/2005 4:54:32 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: ken5050

You do have a point.


844 posted on 04/22/2005 6:06:34 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: ken5050

LMAO no kidding, never thought of that angle.


845 posted on 04/22/2005 6:13:10 PM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; ken5050; darthxenu; MomwithHope; sockmonkey; Chani; EmilyGeiger; Lee'sGhost; ..
For everyone who thinks that Jeff manipulated Janu into quitting, remember, we only see what the producers want us to see. The following is an article that appeared today and might shed a little more light on the Quitter’s state of mind.

Tornell Quits 'Survivor'; Still on Jury
By DERRIK J. LANG, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - Quitters never win, but if they make it far enough on "Survivor," they get to be on the jury. Janu Tornell, 39, became the fourth person in "Survivor" history to quit the competition, but she'll still help decide the winner of the $1 million prize as a member of the nine-person jury - a heated issue the tribal council cameras didn't capture. "It wasn't to save Stephenie (LaGrossa) in the game," Tornell told The Associated Press Friday. "It ended up like that. At the same time, it was almost like a power play because I threw a wrench into their game."

The former Las Vegas showgirl said host Jeff Probst didn't coerce her into departing "Survivor: Palau," although it may have seemed otherwise.

"He aided me," said Tornell. "I was at the point where I thought, `I want to go, but I don't want to jeopardize being part of the jury.' I was still battling with `quitter.' I hate that word. But I did it. I laid down my torch. No regrets whatsoever."

Viewers didn't see Tornell's concern about whether she would be on the jury if she quit the CBS reality show. After going back and forth for several hours, Tornell said Probst asked for a break in the filming.

"The cameras stopped," said Tornell. "Tribal council got really heated. You guys didn't even get any part of that. (Probst) goes, `This is off the record. What's going on, Janu? What are you worried about?' And I said, `Basically, I don't want to lose my place in the jury. I don't know where this takes me."

Tornell said Probst left the tribal council area and consulted with producers. (The three players who quit "Survivor" in previous seasons departed before juries were formed.)

"It was all a new drama situation for everybody involved," said Tornell.

Probst returned and assured Tornell that she wouldn't forfeit her place on the jury by quitting. The cameras started back up, and Tornell did just that.

Now, as a jury member, she'll be on the lookout for the player "who I thought played the game the best."

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Take care,
And I’ll be back tomorrow with my recap. (That is IF I can keep my loathing for this quitter from infecting my usual happy-go-lucky recap.) :~D

CUZ

846 posted on 04/24/2005 9:27:31 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money (The difference between Scott Peterson & M. Schiavo - Schiavo got away with murdering his wife.)
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To: piperpilot

You're right, but the girls were mad a Tom for not letting them use the 55 gallons of water to shower with.


847 posted on 04/24/2005 11:25:26 AM PDT by Collier
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Man, what a great update! Jeff should have edited that whole thing into the show. What a great cause-and-effect and then final outcome. I mean, one of the best "conflicts" of Survivor and it ends up on the cutting room floor.


848 posted on 04/24/2005 3:16:46 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Maybe they will show it on the reunion show...


849 posted on 04/25/2005 4:40:58 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: Lee'sGhost
I agree. That would have been fascinating to see, and now that I know about it, I'm kind of angry about it because the way they edited the show, it made it seem like Janu quit only to save Stephenie. We all knew that Janu had had enough of the show and was hoping to get voted off, but I doubted that she would ever just up and quit. I had had enough of Janu and was hoping she would get voted off too, but that's another story.

**CAUTION: SPOILER ALERT** Now I desperately want Jenn, Katie or Greg to go, but from what I've been reading on various fan sites, Stephenie is the one to go this week. I hope they're wrong. She is a strong competitor and I would love to see her in the final against either Tom or Ian. Tom is the stronger of the two, but I think little dolphin trainer boy is as cute as a button!
850 posted on 04/25/2005 5:20:26 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: 24Karet; alisasny; agarrett; A knight without armor; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Artist; ...

The Koror Tribe: Caryn, Gregg, Ian, Jennifer, Katie, Stephenie, Tom

The Jury: Coby, The Quitter

The Losers: Jonathan, Wanda, Jolanda, Ashlee, Jeff, Kim, Willard, Angie, James, Ibrehem, Bobby Jon,

Well, here is your recap of last Thursday’s show. (And I promise I’ll try my best to keep my loathing for the quitter at a minimum.)

The show opens with flies buzzing around some spoiled leftover food. The quitter says she feels betrayed because no one informed her of the Coby boot. (um, if memory serves me correctly, last week they went directly from the Immunity Challenge to Tribal Council. So when exactly was someone supposed to inform her that Coby would get the boot? HMMMMMM!)

Anyway, Katie and Jenn have gab fest amongst themselves which the quitter overhears, and then proceeds to blow a gasket at Katie. During this tirade, Katie, twice tries to apologize but the quitter is on a role and will have none of it. Gregg tries to intervene but the quitter then cuts into him, saying that “they’re all going to end up tearing each other apart.” Is it any wonder why Katie, then cops a “What-ever!” kind of attitude.

Gregg then comments to the camera that even though the quitter has been a drag, that is no reason to get rid of her yet. In fact, he lets us in on his plan for Stephenie going next, saying “he’s not going to keep someone around just because they deserve to be there.” And that “the only way you deserve to be there is if you help his plan to win him the million dollars.” The typical “Hurray for me and crap on everyone else” type mentality which (lets face it) you need to have to win the game.

The tribe gathers for Reward Challenge. Jeff explains that the tribe will be “randomly” split into two teams of four. Each team will have six pieces of scaffolding that they must haul into the water and place on top of each other to build a tower. Once the tower is completed, one member will climb the tower, retrieve a flag, and then all four members will swim back to shore. The team that crosses the finish line first wins a Palauan feast and a meet & greet with the high chief of the area. The tribe is “randomly” split into Caryn, Gregg, the quitter and Tom on one team and Ian, Jenn, Katie, and Stephenie on the other.

Jeff says go and its pretty much neck and neck at the beginning. The quitter and Caryn let Gregg and Tom do all the work at first, but then the quitter decides to help which gives their team the lead and eventually wins the race. Jeff informs Ian, Jenn, Katie, and Stephenie that he has nothing for them and tells them to head back to camp. The winners are then whisked off to their reward.

Tom, Gregg, Caryn and the quitter meet the chief and are presented with flowers and other little trinkets and each is given a blessing from the chief. They then watch a traditional dance and are treated to their feast. No one talks strategy while they stuff their faces (or so says Caryn). The quitter suddenly gets up and says she has to make herself sick. Well, that just puts a dampener on the whole festivities.

The four then return to camp just as the other four are dishing up their meager seafood stew. Gregg tells them to stop eating that slop because they have brought back some real food. The four challenge losers are delighted to see that their fellow tribemates were thoughtful enough to bring them back some food. That is until the quitter snags a piece of the desert. (She didn’t get a chance to try it before, what with making herself sick and all, don’t-cha-know!). Katie’s claws come out, and snipes to the camera that the quitter and Caryn both have a lot of nerve bringing them back some food and then proceed to take it back.

The next day the tribe is called to Immunity Challenge. Jeff explains that in the water is a steel grate barrier. Each of them will take a spot under the grate and as the tide begins to rise, their breathing room will slowly decrease until they run out of breathing room. Jeff then explains that the first one to bail out will be taken to a new beach and abandoned there to live on their own for the night. They will be given a flint, a machete, water, and some fishing gear. (Oh wow! How ever will they survive? All alone, buy themselves, GIVE ME A BREAK!)

Anyway, Jeff says go and true to form, the quitter quits after only six minutes. She claims that the water is too cold and a night alone is preferable to freezing in the water. Katie makes a few snide comments that seem lost on the quitter.

The water continues to rise until, fifty five minutes later Caryn quits followed in rapid succession by Katie, Jenn, Steph, Gregg, and finally Ian. Tom is awarded the ugly necklace yet again, while the quitter is boated off to her exile island.

The next scene is the quitter trying to make fire and failing. Night falls and she still has no fire. Her comments to the camera while she is struggling with the fire indicates she needed the time away because it’s her against them. Just when it looks as if she will have to spend the night fireless, POOF! the embers flare up and lo and behold she has FIRE! She then starts dancing on the beach and one might actually believe that she wants to continue in the game.

The next morning back at camp, Gregg and Tom are discussing the upcoming tribal council and who is going to get the boot. Tom says that all the girls seem to think that the quitter will be getting the boot. Gregg counters with Stephenie should go since she is more of a threat. Tom tells the camera he is torn between Gregg’s common sense and his “final four” promise to Stephenie. They then go off and find Ian to continue the discussion. After some back and forth, Tom says to the camera that the vote is for Steph, but he heart isn’t in it. (Will he change his mind by Tribal Council? Only time will tell.)

The quitter then returns to camp to a round of “welcome backs” and “how’d it go?” She informs them that even though it took two and a half hours to make fire, she had a great time. The quitter then comments to the camera how two faced everyone was.

The camera then cuts to Stephenie, who is having a crisis because she can’t get anyone alone to talk about the vote. She says that she thought everyone agreed to vote for the quitter but now she is beginning to sense that it’s her who is getting the boot. A feeling borne out when Ian clams up when she confronts him.

The tribe files into Tribal Council, followed by Coby as the first member of the Jury. Jeff asks the quitter about her night alone on her island. She says that she had a great time. He then asks her about the well wishes from the tribe before she was exiled. She says that she thinks half of it was sincere and half was “them just playing the game.”

Of course Caryn acts shocked at this revalation, but chalks it up to the quitter being herself. We are treated to some more of Jeff’s and the tribe’s back and forth, blah, blah, blah, with Stephenie, getting more and more uncomfortable. Jeff then starts in asking each member why they should keep him/her?

Katie replies that she doesn’t pose any type of threat right now. The quitter responds with “no reason. The can get rid of me.” When Jeff asks her to explain her reply, the says “If I were them, I’d be sick of me too.” Stephenie rolls her eyes, and Coby mugs to the camera as if to say “Girl, shut your mouth while your ahead!” Jeff points out that she almost seems like she wants to go home. She replies that a part of her wants to ask to be voted out, but she doesn’t know what they’ll do.” (Coby looks as if he’s about to bite his tongue in two.)

Jeff turns to Ian and asks him why they would keep someone who wants to leave. Ian replies “If someone really wants to leave they have the power to set their torch down.” Jeff then seems to realize that Stephenie is about to turn into a quivering mass of gelatinous mush! He tells her that “if looks could kill, the quitter would be dead on the ground right now.” She manages to mumble something in between the racking sobs about how “here she is fighting to stay in the game, and the quitter just wants to give up, and life’s just not fair!” Boo-Hoo-Hoo! She and the quitter then trade some more catty comments.
Jeff asks a few more pointless questions and then asks the quitter “If things went the way she wanted tonight what would happen?” She replies by saying she would ask the tribe to vote her out and keep Stephenie in. Jeff then asks her what is the difference between her asking to be voted out and her laying her torch down? She replies that “After reflecting there is none.” And she would be willing to lay down her torch so that Stephenie will have a chance to stay in this game. Coby looks as if he’s about ready to jump up and scream “YOU FOOL! KEEP YOUR DAMN MOUTH SHUT OR YOU’LL RUIN EVERYTHING!

Stephenie (who also hasn’t learned to keep her mouth shut) protests, saying “If she wants to lay her torch down, fine, but don’t do it on my behalf.” The quitter then says “She’s quitting and doesn’t want Stephenie to feel she’s doing it for her. It’s something she needs to do.”

Jeff, wanting to make sure everything is clear, asks her again if she is “on her own, quitting the game?” The quitter replies with a simple “Yes. I will lay down my torch this evening.”

Almost as if on cue, it starts to rain as Jeff snuffs her torch saying “Per your request. You can’t go home however, you are now a member of the Jury.” The quitter, says thanks, Jeff replies with good night and the quitter takes the walk of shame. Jeff then lays her torch down off to the side as Stephenie smiles.

The Quitter’s Final Words
Well here I am, the showgirl turned Survivor. Ummm biggest cards dealt me this opportunity and as my father said, it gave me endurance and my mother said, no matter what, you walk away a winner. I did lay down my torch today but no one will ever be able to take away this most unforgettable experience, no one.

This experience taught me that I can survive in any given situation, even though my body was depleting and my mind was just kind of going, I was able to gain something from down deep inside the fire that's inside my body and just run with it, and nothing can stop me, even thought I lay down my torch, I have walked away with something no one will ever be able to take away.

I take away an unbelievable experience of living like I have never lived before, without any essentials, without any anything, down to the very raw state of my being and being deserted on the island by myself, that gave me a whole other idea what life is, what things mean, and how important things are to me.

Throughout this whole game, I did feel that I needed to go home for whatever reason and I wasn't feeling well and what not, and I asked them to go home and it didn't work. And I started feeling as if I was a pawn piece in a chess game, unfortunately, I just made the last move, I decided to take myself out of the game, now they are going to have really think about what next move to make because they don't have me an excuse of me anymore.

I guess I have made the power play, not willingly, not wanting to hurt anybody but I guess I did make a major power play, and I guess I did ruin their plans so I they're just going to have to see how strong of a Survivor they are in order to continue.

Satisfaction because I was honest and straightforward from the very beginning and I didn't get that in return even though they claimed that they did, and now it's just the satisfaction that I was able to lay down my torch and walk away with this experience, them not touching it, and knowing now they have to be the ones to struggle.

Yes, it does feel good actually that I can still be in the jury, I can still have a voice in what's going to happen and see how this whole game plays out.

P.S. See my post #846 above for some more information regarding the Tribal Council and the quitters comments to a reporter.

Take care,

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up,
totally worn out,
and loudly proclaiming....
Wow, what a ride!"

Freepmail me if you want added to or removed from the Survivor Ping List.

851 posted on 04/25/2005 9:55:56 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money (The difference between Scott Peterson & M. Schiavo - Schiavo got away with murdering his wife.)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Cuz, what was your take on Tom's comments at the council?


852 posted on 04/25/2005 10:00:13 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money; eyespysomething

I'm glad Stephanie survived another tribal council. I hope Tom and Ian decide to go with her and Katie and let the others go now. I'd like to see Stephanie make it to the final three with Tom and Ian.

The Quitter, as she's known, shouldn't have been on the island to begin with. And based on her night-alone-I-made-fire-after-two-hours dance, I don't think she's a very good dancer.


853 posted on 04/25/2005 10:14:08 AM PDT by SittinYonder (You can't sing country music with a northeastern twang)
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To: CheneyChick
The only comment I can recall Tom making was in response to Jeff’s question about “unity and his job.”
Tom’s reply was to say that “If Stephenie joined the 108 Truck (He's referring to his fire house back in New York) everyone would be honored to work with her, but this isn’t work.”

This was as blatant as all get out! Tom was in effect saying to Stephenie (and everyone else there at Tribal Council) that the decision has been made that Stephenie is the tribes selected bootee tonight.

But! At the same time, I also think that he was sending a (not so subtle) hint to the quitter that if she really wanted to call it quits, now is the time to do so.

854 posted on 04/25/2005 10:20:10 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money (The difference between Scott Peterson & M. Schiavo - Schiavo got away with murdering his wife.)
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To: SittinYonder
And based on her night-alone-I-made-fire-after-two-hours dance, I don't think she's a very good dancer.

I wonder if she had to quit her day job, or got fired... LOL.

855 posted on 04/25/2005 10:24:01 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money

Thanks. It will be interesting to see what Stephanie does with this....


856 posted on 04/25/2005 10:25:07 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money; All
FYI..two interesting stories from this weekend's NY Post TV magazine..I can't post a direct link, because you have to blow up the page to make it clear enough to read..but easy to find..

One's an ARA alert ( see, I remembered) ..a big story on why we hate Rob and Amber..for those there who are also TAS fans..and the other is about the Survivor contest on the CBS web site...

GO here..then halfway down the page, on the left hand side..click on TV WEEK...you'll see the two stories on the front page..click on, then you can blow up the pages....

857 posted on 04/25/2005 10:32:03 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
RE Janu's wondering if she quit, woudl she stay on the jury..

1. She wanted the extra two weeks vacation in paradise..

2. The jury members get paid a nice sum because they appear on subsequent shows, and also the big final..as well as other promo appearances..so she obviously was concerned about losing her "rice bowl" I mean.can anybody recall a conestant from a previous show who was voted off before the jury was seated?

858 posted on 04/25/2005 10:37:56 AM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Cuz, that was an awesome review! It really captured the essence of last week's episode.

My question to all of you is, wouldn't they have to use a lot of make up on the quitter to make her look good for a Vegas show? Either that or she must have been a show girl in one of the downtown Vegas casinos where all the dead enders congregate.
859 posted on 04/25/2005 10:42:54 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: piperpilot

Speaking of makeup, did you notice Coby's appearance when he took his seat on the jury bench? Quite different from his game face. Seemed to me he was wearing makeup. Question is, does he always wear makeup at home, or was this just for the camera? Perhaps it was stage makeup applied by Survivor makeup artistes.


860 posted on 04/25/2005 1:38:49 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions Freely Dispensed as Advice)
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