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Another review of this interesting book can be found by hitting book review above.
1 posted on 01/16/2005 4:16:59 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

A local pseudo-intellectual leftist had a column in the paper today that was a hit-piece on Leo Strauss. Maybe he got it from this book.


2 posted on 01/16/2005 4:23:42 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: shrinkermd

So much for the review, my college senior daughter wanted this book for Christmas. She received it and will now aggravate her professors by setting it on her desk in class in plain view. Luckily, it is her last semester. Hopefully she doesn't tick too many people off.


3 posted on 01/16/2005 4:25:38 PM PST by republicangel
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To: shrinkermd

I have to wonder if this writer ever fully defined ideology, as I would argue it is a necessary form of agreement in forwarding the objectives of a group.


4 posted on 01/16/2005 4:41:35 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: shrinkermd

Good grief! I think I'll tie a rope around my testicles tonight and invite Barney Frank over for a Gin and Tonic.


6 posted on 01/16/2005 4:58:21 PM PST by Brainhose (THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
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To: shrinkermd
"Objectivism maintains that truth is determined by reason and rational self-interest."

No it doesn’t. Truth is identified, not determined, by observation and reason. According to Objectivism, rational self interest determines morality, not truth.

"Capitalism is the only system that can honestly determine man’s interaction with man."

Wrong. Capitalism does not “honestly” determine mans’ interactions”, it’s simply a description of the only “moral” economic system.

"Chambers pointed out that materialism as an ethic comes to grief in practice."

Materialism is not an Objectivist value. Chambers is confusing that with Objectivists' claim that money is the most “honest measure” of value, as opposed to trading favors or hinting at dept after large gifts.

"If there is no organizing force except self-interest, self interest soon becomes self pleasure. "

Rand agrees. She saw her organizing force or greater cause as perusing the ideal of man as a heroic being. She said life would be un-interesting otherwise.

"Some believe Chamber’s critique began the delineation of conservativism from objectivism. "

That there was ever more of an Objectivist-Conservative alliance than there is today is news to me.

8 posted on 01/16/2005 5:59:59 PM PST by elfman2
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To: shrinkermd

Bump and thanks for a great read!


10 posted on 01/16/2005 7:33:18 PM PST by lainde
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To: shrinkermd
The good example is Newdow the publicity hound atheist.

He's a doctor, a lawyer - and a complete fool.

Unfortunately, wisdom, judgment, and common sense are not the same as IQ.

You can be an "intellectual" and read 15,000 books, and still be evil or crazy.

There were plenty of Communists and Nazi who were well read and very smart.
12 posted on 01/17/2005 5:58:13 PM PST by rcocean
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Intellectual Morons: How Ideology Makes Smart People Fall for Stupid Ideas Daniel J. Flynn

14 posted on 02/14/2005 10:17:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Ted "Kids, I Sunk the Honey" Kennedy is just a drunk who's never held a job (or had to).)
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