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"Motorcycle safety activists". Hmmm.
1 posted on 01/15/2005 12:38:30 PM PST by martin_fierro
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2 posted on 01/15/2005 12:40:04 PM PST by martin_fierro (FReep Wry For The Straight Guy)
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Solutional to the S.S. problem? </sarc >
3 posted on 01/15/2005 12:41:03 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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"I´ve seen a definite increase in men in their 40s and 50s getting back into motorcycling. They haven´t ridden in 20 or 30 years, so their skills are rusty. Motorcycles have changed, and they´re getting bigger motorcycles. And they´re getting on without a refresher course," said Cathy Rimm, program director for Motorcycle Rider Education of Maine.




Hmmm most states today require new riders to take Motorcycle Safety courses. If they have old motorcycle endorsements, without having to retake motocycle skills tests, it is possible that these riders can ride without the course.

In my case I started riding before they were mandatory for new riders 25. Then the rules changed to all new licensed riders. A lot of my friends had to take the course, but I have yet to take them. Heck I got my racing license a year and a half after getting my state license! I learned more on the track than anywhere else.


4 posted on 01/15/2005 12:49:24 PM PST by SFC Chromey (Did 13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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Hardly even see any youngsters on bikes here in Florida. They're all guys with gray hair! 90% of them aren't wearing helmets either


5 posted on 01/15/2005 12:49:56 PM PST by Vermonter
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What do you call a baby-boomer with a midlife crisis who buys a big honkin' motorcycle......




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6 posted on 01/15/2005 12:50:13 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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"Motorcycle safety activists" my arse.

Any person who wants to ride motorcycles ought first to log 30,000 miles on a very small one -- 200 cc or less. That's my advice. Then, work up slowly from there.


7 posted on 01/15/2005 12:50:58 PM PST by Tax Government (Boycott and defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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Journalism 101:

1) Write a headline about baby Boomer deaths

2) Find someone born in 1966 who can be the focus of the story

9 posted on 01/15/2005 12:51:32 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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...also part of the increase is the choice of bike. H-D bikes really have not changed much in the last 20 years, whereas the sport bike makers have ALL increased the level of USEFUL technology in their bikes every year.

The sport bikes most buy today will out accellerate, outbrake, out-turn, out perform factory racing machine of 10 years ago.

All of that when used properly will help keep you alive on the street. Remeber with motorbikes it is 90% AVOIDANCE of a collision, 10% survivability after the fact!


10 posted on 01/15/2005 12:53:45 PM PST by SFC Chromey (Did 13 months in Iraq and of COURSE I voted for BUSH!)
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Big, powerful bikes appear to be part of the explanation. NHTSA data show that both engine displacement and fatalities among riders with the largest class of engines rose during the past decade.

Once again, the feds confuse cause and effect. Big honkin' Harleys have become a status symbol. Big honkin' Harleys are very expensive. A lot of older folks with disposable income who want to be part of the new Harley craze are the only ones who can afford the big honkin' Harleys. And they go and buy the big honkin' Harleys but lack the experience to safely ride such a big honkin' Harley. So they buy it the first time they get into trouble.

15 posted on 01/15/2005 1:04:59 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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PEOPLE THAT RIDE MOTORCYCLES ARE INSANE!
Thank you. That is all.


27 posted on 01/15/2005 1:33:41 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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I don't care how good of rider you are, or how many safety courses you've taken. All it takes is someone to make a left turn in front of you, or change lanes etc, and your're dead or crippled. Seen it many times. Bikes and cars, trucks don't mix. Over the past 30 years, known 4 good friends that rode, all dead from bike collisions.

Remember a young couple, stopped by our place on his Harley about 15 years ago. They left after a short visit.

About 20 minutes later heard all kinds of sirens. We were on our way to cruise down to the beach, so we left. About a mile down the highway, all kinds of emergency vehicles. It was the couple.

A car made a left in front of them, they were doing about 45mph, traveling straight down the highway. He never had time to break, hitting the left turner on the front passenger door, both flew straight up about 25 feet, came down on their heads, on the other side of the intersection. She died instantly, he lived about an hour or so and died in the local hospital of massive head and other injuries.

I gave up riding in the streets long ago, after numerous Harleys, and other assorted bikes, and about 8, very close calls and going down a few times.

I still ride bikes.....Dirt bikes, away from intersections and cars, trucks, concrete etc.....

30 posted on 01/15/2005 2:05:13 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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Real men drive fire engines.


32 posted on 01/15/2005 2:14:17 PM PST by Porterville (Never compromise what is right. Take your time to insult a liberal or have one unemployed.)
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That's one way to deal with the coming Social Security crisis. Remember kids, always wear your motorcycle helmet. You're still gonna die, but you can still (usually) have an open-casket funeral.


36 posted on 01/15/2005 2:23:01 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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NHTSA knows nothing about motorcycle safety. Their incompetence is legendary.

The people who have the highest number of fatalities and accidents has been in the same group for decades. Its the people who have had their motorcycle for less than six months and have never taken a safety/rider class. Also many of those accidents relate to people without motorcycle license. (don't need one to BUY a motorcycle.)

This also does not consider the fact that 80% (NHTSA's own numbers) are the fault of the automobile not the rider. This article is written with the assumption of motorcycle is at fault.

The incompetence of this article does not consider the fact that older people can affort a Harley after all those years.

These articles are to counter the recent trend of rejecting mandatory helmet laws. IOW the rejection of the nanny state.


42 posted on 01/15/2005 6:31:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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...Oh yeah. Since when is 39 a baby boomer?


47 posted on 01/15/2005 7:52:48 PM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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Motorcycle safety activists worried about baby boomer deaths

What's the downside? (I was born in 1950.)

65 posted on 01/16/2005 7:09:11 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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Death is cheaper for the system than long term medical care.


66 posted on 01/16/2005 7:10:18 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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No one knows exactly why baby boomers are dying at a faster clip…

Doing our part to save Social Security.
67 posted on 01/16/2005 7:13:12 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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I'm 56 and have been riding all my adult life. The thrust behind this story is dead right! Guys get financially secure and want to relive their youth. BS - you can't go home again! Even the guys that used to ride have a hard time chipping the rust off. Guys that have never ridden are the worst, and don't have a reasonable life expectancy. 'Course, I warn the ones I know and leave their fate in their hands.

RIP amongst 'em, my friend Joel Kernodle, a friend of this board.

You've got to be able to react to the most adverse situation without having your heartrate and adrenalin go nutz.

87 posted on 01/16/2005 12:46:07 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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...They also make up the fastest-growing segment of motorcycle deaths.

20 years ago, they said that if you were going to die on a motorcycle, (statistically speaking,) it would be in the first six months of riding. Looks like nothings changed, except that a lot of older guys are getting bikes.

88 posted on 01/16/2005 12:50:37 PM PST by D Rider
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