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The Neverending Story
Free Republic | 3/24/01 | The NES Crew

Posted on 01/11/2005 6:18:33 PM PST by malakhi

The Neverending Story

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

After a nine month hiatus, The Neverending Story, the granddaddy of daily threads, has returned to Free Republic. Originally begun on March 24, 2001, as a religious discussion thread, the NES evolved over time into a daily thread spanning a wide variety of topics. The new and improved Neverending Story will feature conversation on religion, politics, culture, current events, business, sports, family, hobbies, general fellowship and more. We welcome you to hang your hat in our little corner of FR. We ask you to abide by the FR posting rules and, even in the midst of serious debate, to keep the discussion friendly and respectful. Those who wish to "duke it out" are asked to take it over to the Smoky Backroom. I placed this thread in "General/Chat" for a reason, so play nice and have fun! :o)


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To: SoothingDave
I don't think it was ever claimed to be "so important."

I'll wait for IMRight to respond, then.

781 posted on 01/18/2005 1:50:27 PM PST by malakhi
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

That's where I got it from. Sgt. Schultz and I have a lot in common except I am not fat.


782 posted on 01/18/2005 1:58:50 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
What the hell happened? I've been posting double and triple all day long.

Can't even post on a chat board and you expext us to listen to you?

BigMack

783 posted on 01/18/2005 2:00:16 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: IMRight

Oh, by the way, the DSS fragment of Psalm 22:17 has been dated as late as the second century C.E. by scholars and researchers including Geza Vermes, the primary translator of the DSS.


784 posted on 01/18/2005 2:01:19 PM PST by malakhi
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Can't even post on a chat board and you expext us to listen to you?

I'll be fine. My expectations weren't that high anyway. :-)

785 posted on 01/18/2005 2:03:58 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: SoothingDave; malakhi
You assume a "translation error" and not, in fact, an accurate rendering of the then-Hebrew text which was later corrupted.

Do you assume a deliberate mistranslation to support the development of the Cult of Mary?

Luke 1:28 (DR) And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

786 posted on 01/18/2005 2:10:39 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: malakhi; Invincibly Ignorant; SoothingDave
I mean, I know we're supposed to be perfidious and all, but still...

The RCC no longer teaches that.

787 posted on 01/18/2005 2:16:19 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
The RCC no longer teaches that.

Someone really ought to break that to the trads, then. ;o)

788 posted on 01/18/2005 2:17:58 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Well, to be fair Pope John XXIII removed that word. :-)

I have gotten used to your double posting but triple????????????

789 posted on 01/18/2005 2:18:04 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
The RCC no longer teaches that.

I guess they figured 1,963 years was enough. :-)

790 posted on 01/18/2005 2:18:16 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: SoothingDave; malakhi
I don't think it was ever claimed to be "so important." That's kind of what makes the entire argument futile. I can totally cede that almah is the correct word, and that it does not have a meaning necessarily of "virgin" and it still doesn't change the truth of Jesus. It is a tempest in a teapot.

Then you agree that it was not meant to prophesy the birth of Jesus?
791 posted on 01/18/2005 2:25:21 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: All
I've had the Senate Confirmation Hearings on for the last few hours. I don't know why I do stupid things like this.

At this moment John Kerry is pontificating though he is really no worse than all those other assholes who are making noises for the camera.

792 posted on 01/18/2005 2:29:27 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: newgeezer

There'll certainly be no daytime freeping for me at the ole postoffice.


793 posted on 01/18/2005 2:29:49 PM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
I guess they figured 1,963 years was enough. :-)

Don't exaggerate. There was no RCC until Constantine invented it.

794 posted on 01/18/2005 2:33:05 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Then you agree that it was not meant to prophesy the birth of Jesus?

No, sorry. I only said it was possible to cede that it doesn't technically say "virgin" without affecting the reality of Jesus' birth.

SD

795 posted on 01/18/2005 2:40:27 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: biblewonk
There'll certainly be no daytime freeping for me at the ole postoffice.

Whoa, you started TODAY, didn't ya, Cliffy?! :-) How'd it go?

796 posted on 01/18/2005 2:46:17 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
I guess they figured 1,963 years was enough. :-)

Don't exaggerate. There was no RCC until Constantine invented it.

Ok I take that back. I'll just say they left it in there until well after the Shoah. :-)

797 posted on 01/18/2005 2:48:58 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: SoothingDave
No, sorry. I only said it was possible to cede that it doesn't technically say "virgin" without affecting the reality of Jesus' birth.

Interesting. There is no one who disputes the historical reality of the birth of Jesus. You are willing to cede it was not foretold in the Old Testament?
798 posted on 01/18/2005 2:54:08 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Interesting. There is no one who disputes the historical reality of the birth of Jesus. You are willing to cede it was not foretold in the Old Testament?

Off the top of my head, there is also ...
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

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Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

799 posted on 01/18/2005 5:51:28 PM PST by Quester
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To: Quester

I just looked up Isaiah 9:6. God does calls the Son, God and Father.


800 posted on 01/18/2005 6:07:42 PM PST by CindyDawg
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