Posted on 01/11/2005 6:18:33 PM PST by malakhi
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If a dozen people moan and complain that you're hurting their feeling by telling them that their green grass is NOT, in fact, "purple"... can they complain that you have no authority to do so?
If they are really genuine in their beliefs... must you accept their definition?
A Christian is a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ (as it was in acts... the first time the word was used). IF the "Christ" you follow is a turnip truck, you may CALL yourself "Christian", but it doesn't make it so. If He ISN'T God... He might as well be a turnip truck.
Are you drunk? You don't make any sense.
Jesus supposedly chose Paul, the Apostles didn't. What's to say Jesus isn't, this very day, choosing Ministers outside the "system"?
You might try reading the second part of that post since it refutes your accusation that he removed portions.
It's too bad you think Jesus left in His wake a leadership vacuum. Left us orphan.
SD
As long as they have miracles to show, I don't have any doubt.
What's to say Jesus isn't, this very day, choosing Ministers inside the system?
SD
You want the website they put together? :-)
Let's see.... go to Google.... type "Nicea" and take the first hit.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/sbrandt/nicea.htm
"There were some three hundred bishops gathered at the Council of Nicea from all around the world. Eusebius lists many of them and their country of origin in his writings."
...snip...
"Originally seventeen of those bishops gathered at the council were unwilling to sign the Creed penned by the Council, and all but three of these were convinced to sign by the end. It is thus apparent that the Arians were a distinct minority among the bishops. Initially there was some resistance to the Nicene Creed, not because of what it said but because of how it said it. Many objected to the use of the word "homoousias" in an official document because it was not used in Scripture, despite their agreement with the meaning it conveyed. "
according to the book "when christ became God" there were some 1500 people at this counsel. Are you just counting bishops?
I don't care diddle poo poo what Orthodox Christians believe today or believed after Constantine knocked their noggins together. What did the Apostles believe?
Try this one Different story huh?
Don't know... but I'm sure the guy who wrote "when christ became God" (Jack Miles??)wasn't one of them.
I'll see what I can find.
Mack, you're missing all the fun! :o)
The Latin god Sol is associated with the Greek god Helios.
Arch of Constantine
Inscription: "Constantine overcame his enemies by divine inspiration"
Supposedly Constantine converted to Christianity in 312. If Constantine dedicated the arch to celebrate his Christian victory over the Pagan Maxentius, then why is the Pagan god Helios depicted on the arch?
http://harpy.uccs.edu/roman/html/archconslides.html
He also issued coins at a later date with Jupiter depicted on them.
Try this one Different story huh?
OK... you're debating skills have declined over the last couple years. I'll try to go easy on you. :-)
1st - "Lazy scholarship" ?? YOU said "it should be easy to document" and I was demonstrating HOW easy it is. Took me less than 30 seconds.
2nd - "Lazy scholarship" ?? I point out that the site I used is a major university... yours is???
3rd - (Here's the best one)... "Try this one Different story huh?". Ummm. No.
You didn't even realize that your "scholarship" had found you a site that agreed with me did you?
They have "The majority opposed the Nicene creed" under the column of "lies" where "Anti-trinitarians misrepresent facts of history". "But the opposition was over the use of specific words that could be misunderstood, not the deity of Christ." is precisely what I posted.
So, no... it isn't a "different story"
Can you give me points for the jab anyway? ;-)
He didn't capitalize orthodox. Peter was as orthodox as they come.
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