Posted on 01/11/2005 6:18:33 PM PST by malakhi
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Technically, "Unicity" is the better word here. The point being uniqueness, "Oneness," and not unity.
SD
Hi. Those darn Catholic roots again huh? We just took a good idea and did some tweaking. We just tossed out the saint part but kept the love one another :)
Some day, you might come to the realization that reason is not an enemy of God, nor of faith. It is precisely this attitude that allows the left to stereotype all believers as superstitious, un-reasoning yokels.
As for "admiting" anything, I don't think anyone here is under the misconception that I am of the belief that the Trinity is immediately understandable from a first-reading of Scripture. Nor that I assert that Scripture is the sole source of God's Revelation to us. So you are seriously barking up the wrong tree.
In fact, I would have no trouble at all "admitting" or "confessing" to your entire statement, on the condition that "imagination" is replaced with "contemplation."
SD
No just a card but his momma told him hold to spell and he wrote it all by himself. You know you can get those choc turtles sugar free now? They aren't bad:')
Oh yea! Trinity time:'). The three are one and the one is three.
Have your boys discovered Pokémon yet?
Nope. And I intend to keep it that way for awhile. We avoided the teletubbies, never met Barney, don't watch the Wiggles, and have no idea who SpongeBob is (gay or straight). We DO like Blues Clues, Veggie Tales, Country Mouse & City Mouse, Scooby Doo (the new favorite), Dora, Oobi, and a few others.
Here's the mystery. On one hand its been said on this thread that logic and reason should be used to understand and contemplate the trinity. Yet the trinity itself is considered and defined by orthodoxy as a mystery.
Something being a revealed mystery does not mean either that we can know nothing about it, nor that anything we say about it must be true.
Rather, it is revealed to us. That means we can gain a basic understanding. This allows us to affirm or deny statements based upon how they conform to what has been revealed.
We may not understand how gasoline vapors under pressure can be ignited, but that doesn't mean it's OK to call an automobile a speedboat.
Is your brand of Judaism devoid of mystery?
SD
Something being a revealed mystery does not mean either that we can know nothing about it, nor that anything we say about it must be true.
Rather, it is revealed to us. That means we can gain a basic understanding. This allows us to affirm or deny statements based upon how they conform to what has been revealed.
First, and this is essential, you must drink the kool-aid.
We may not understand how gasoline vapors under pressure can be ignited, but that doesn't mean it's OK to call an automobile a speedboat.
Off the wall! Do you pull these inane analogies out of your head naturally or do you have to do the "funny stuff" first?
I can truthfully say I have no idea who or what the teletubbies are, have never met Barney, don't watch the Wiggles (never heard of them till now), and have no idea who SpongeBob is (gay or straight).
Then again I am not royalty.
Off the wall! Do you pull these inane analogies out of your head naturally or do you have to do the "funny stuff" first?
I have a three-year-old. There is no end to the questions "why?" And you know what? We don't really understand anything in an absolute sense.
We no sooner master Newtonian mechanics than we are shaken by its inapplicability to sub-atomic matter. Underlying our best "understanding" is a central mystery. We can describe how proteins and DNA and cells work, but we don't really understand how life exists. That doesn't make us ignorant, just incomplete.
It's OK to accept that we have been given a revelation, a chance to understand partially the nature of God. It's also OK to accept that the central Truth of God is mysterious.
Is your brand of whatever devoid of mystery?
(Isn't it odd how one day you attack reason, and the next you attack mystery?)
SD
Then again I am not royalty.
Perhaps not... but by the description you gave above.... I'd say you ARE "lucky".
Barney actually isn't a bad show. I never had any use for the Teletubbies, and the Wiggles are too annoying to watch.
Reggie, if you were spending your days watching Teletubbies.... well, I'd be a little worried. ;o)
But Oobi's always with you.
SD
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