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To: MahaMarty

well wait a minute.....i've been pretty civil up to this point but you are missing it entirely....don't know why you feel you need to do that........it is the NFL scouts that rate him that high and other coaches..not a bunch of Cal fans....and when I said lame, i was being tongue in cheek. I don't mean he pulled up lame I mean that with all his talents if the wide outs were not that important then why did him numbers go down......not becuase of him per se, really.....ask the scouts.....and it is your "opinion about wide receiver.....in the pros you go out and get someone else......in college, you lose three...(3)....they are hard ot replace with freshman and soph who have practiced but haven't played......don't you agree that many patterns are timing patterns and when your main guys go out you can practice all youwant but your timing and feel for it is off.....again....he is not overrated......ask the scouts but you are just being obstinate at this point....if any team loses their two main passing threats and their best rover back on defense they will be not as good.....remember too.......we don't recruit like USC not throw as much money in the program being a public univ.....we are alot more well known for academics where as USC is known more for football........I"m not saying you have a bad institution at all but it no where ranks even close to Cal in most programs except for theater and drama......and well, something else


262 posted on 01/05/2005 3:48:54 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub
I don't blame you for getting defensive, especially since the attacks were unwarranted. Cal had a great team this year, and the injuries were a huge factor in the bowl loss.

I do object, however, to the assertion that USC is known only as a football university. In fact, it's been at least 20 years since they've even been a factor in that sport, but they've certainly been a factor in churning out doctors and judges in southern California.

Their graduation rate among student athletes is almost 20% (out of 100%) higher than Oklahoma, for example. It's fine to rightfully stand up for your academic prowess and athletic successes, but don't put down everyone else as some sort of a jock factory.

265 posted on 01/05/2005 3:59:10 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: NorCalRepub
>USC is known more for football.

Maybe among the ignoramuses. Those in the know are well aware that USC is a very fine university in many academic fields and is only getting better.

271 posted on 01/05/2005 4:13:04 PM PST by Wallaby (http://headland.blogspot.com/)
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To: NorCalRepub

What have I said that is uncivil? I haven't used profanity or vulgarities? I havn't called you names or insulted you? And what NFL scouts are you talking about? I haven't heard HBO's NFL show mention any college QBs, or NFL Today, or Fox's NFL show do it. The first time I've heard the draft mentioned this year was when Miami had a shot at the 1st pick. And Matt Leinhart's top receive didn't play the WHOLE year, and he STILL managed to win the Heisman. I wasn't even that big a fan of him until last night. I thought the guy resembled Ryan Leaf and Drew Bledsoe too much. In fact, I thought that he pretty much WAS a saw paw Drew Bledsoe. But, my opinion changed last night. And if you're sure of what the scouts ARE saying? Just what part of the draft would they be taken at? Where do the SCOUTS think they'll be going and when? And when in the pros do you get someone in the middle of the year to replace your top guy? Trade for Jerry Rice? Cross in patters are timed, slants are timed, the whole West Coast offense is timed, but you're saying that NO ONE was open after those Cal receievers went down? I thought Aaron Rogers was better suited for the NFL until last night. Now, after the what you've said about him, I'm not so sure he should go into the NFL. By the way, why do YOU think he should go into the NFL? And why do you think he is a good quarterback? Feel free to ask me the same questions, I'll answer one of them right now. I thought Aaron Rogers was a good QB because he was the only one who could give the USC defense prefuse trouble on a consistent basis.
Yes, you've said they lost the three receivers and their rover back in about 5 or 6 different posts on this thread, you also enjoy using words like IGNORANT and LOGIC, and you babble on about how you don't understand other people's logic or how they're ignorant, both overrated. But, was this roverback one of the best in the country? Like Brian Urlacher or Adam Archuleta? Both of them were roverbacks in college.
And now I will be uncivil...take your public university and your overrated regard for NoCal academics, and your lack of funds for recruting, according to you, by the way, and go salad toss with it. If this seems ignorant or illogical to you...then read my tagline!


283 posted on 01/05/2005 4:34:36 PM PST by MahaMarty (This'll probably get me suspended...AGAIN!)
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