I do object, however, to the assertion that USC is known only as a football university. In fact, it's been at least 20 years since they've even been a factor in that sport, but they've certainly been a factor in churning out doctors and judges in southern California.
Their graduation rate among student athletes is almost 20% (out of 100%) higher than Oklahoma, for example. It's fine to rightfully stand up for your academic prowess and athletic successes, but don't put down everyone else as some sort of a jock factory.
see I didn't say that.....all the Calif schools are in the top 35 of all universities. What I meant and i"ll rephrase it is that USC (you) and Stanford spend far more for football than Cal. Private universities in the Pac 10 do and those other guys in the SEC and Big 12 etc spend more on football than academics period. Cal has rarely put football on any priority list which as you know USC does at least more so......I know USC is a good school, outstanding but most people don't realize that at the expense of football and other sports, Cal is the number one university in the world (us news rankings) have more 10 ten programs than anyone else in the US and more PH.D's than anyone. Most people (not you) hear Cal and think liberal and hippies but have no clue that Cal is so revered that they are uniformly heralded world wide....pure academics show Stanford, Cal , MIT and Harvard and Cal Tech and pretty much the cream of the crop......so I'm sorry if I offended you and didn't mean to but we are pretty proud of what Tedfor has done considering are resoureces are nearly as much as yours are for football......accept my apology if I misstated it.....
Great points.