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again that is ignorant

No need for that comment. We may disagree, but there are many facts to back up my side.

........Cal was not overrated all year,

Yes they were, TTU proved it.

but they became very ineffectual near the end due to loss of their wide receivers and best defensive rover...

They lose three guys and they become "very ineffectual" . Hmmm, makes me think they were not that strong then. USC lost their best receiver for the whole season and still did OK.

They won their games by an average of 24 points

Yes, they had some big games against weak opponents ( Oregon State and Arizona) and did well against fairly strong opponents (AFA, NMS, ASU). But against some tough (and some not so tough) opponents the scores were always close:

Trailed Southern Miss 17-16 in fourth qtr.
Trailed Oregon in the 4th 27-21

and were the only ones that almost beat USC after outplaying them

All season I have said USC was weak in the first half and that because of this, they could get beat. Cal played on hell of a game against USC, but came up short on the points total, because USC's Defense came through when it counted.

Cal had one of their best seasons ever, no doubt about it. But they do not have the depth (as you have admitted) nor the history of being a strong program, thus I remain unconvinced that Cal will repeat as a top ten team next year.

"I remain unconvinced that Cal will repeat as a top ten team next year."

Oregon went from very good to mediocre when Tedford left, and Cal went from mediocre to very good within two years of Tedford's arrival. I don't know about the top 10 - and I don't remember if Rogers will be back at QB for Cal - but if Cal has a decent QB next year, don't be surprised to see them in the top 20 if not the top 10.

ok I agree with some of your points but the main one most of you guys don't get is that TTU didn't prove Cal wasn't a number 4 team or whatever the WHOLE year......they proved they were not that good at the end.......like I've asked others....Cal was very dominant during the year and USC lost Williams before the season not three wide outs after the middle of the season....you can say that is an excuse but would usc be as good without Bush, ou without Peterson, UT without Benson.....they wouldn't and I would acknowledge that......Rodgers who is a top ten pick i the NFL draft for a reason didn't nearly have the ability to throw to receivers the last third of the season.....excuse, reason, whatever you call it, it was a fact......

but you are mentioning again So miss but that was without 4 players and you are right about Oregon.....we blew that game and should have lost it....to I'll admit that but the others have some extenuating circumstances....it is just when you throw out one game here or there it doesn't stack up......
I"m not trying to be difficult but by that logic let's see....OU shutout UT....right?????
USC killed OU by 36 points ..right?????
Cal lost barely to USC by 6 points.....right????
then Cal is better than both OU and UT by that logic. but of course that is not true...hey unlike most on here and other blogs, i'm not taking one thing away from the Big 12, not even TTU.........but when they don't give Cal it's due or use the the "I won, I won, neener neener neerner defense it just gets a little old.....most of these guys never ever even see a PAC 10 game
have a great year