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Cyn has learned that she can ignore her instructions which now takes a firmer stance to correct that. I don't mean that she learned that from you, I mean that's baggage she came with. It's interesting learning what horses have previously been taught - they have tremendous memories.

They do. She's still learning to lunge 'our' way, and un-learning the Monty Roberts way. I can respect his way, it's just a lot more exercise for the handler to chase them around and I like to stand fairly stationary and give voice commands in more 'classical english' style. We also don't ~have~ a round pen, so we need her to lunge in a circle without running spirals around the whole pasture. We had a lot of success with Cyn by using dual long-lines with her, where we could use the outside rein to keep her straight in the circle, to keep her from being able to turn in.

Well, we stay stationary or pretty much so - takes too much energy to chase horses around, especially when you've got several that have to be worked. So I don't think you'd call us Monty Roberts type trainers at all. :)

Some horses we are working in a 40ft or 60ft round pen, you can use a line there - some get put in the 100ft pen - no line. 'Course if they don't behave, they go to a smaller one with a line.

Our horses are all trained so that we can put them on a line (say at the show or an endurance ride) and lift a hand to lunge them - sometimes just voice commands because there we don't have a ring to work them in and they need some settling of nerves and stretching legs after a long trailer ride. And there it's critical that they behave and obey without any correction equipment because it's important since we always have horses for sell that people see that. Am I making sense here?