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The Beatles: icon or con?
Sidney Morning Herald ^ | 12/22/04 | Greg Hassall and Charles Purcell

Posted on 12/22/2004 11:56:06 AM PST by qam1

Greg Hassall and Charles Purcell do battle over the fab four.

FOR

OK, Ob-la-di Ob-la-da is the most annoying song ever written. And you won't find Revolution No 9 on too many iPods. But how many bands' dud tracks can you count on one hand? The Beatles deserve their place in the pop pantheon. They revolutionised the way pop music was written, recorded and talked about. They were funny, charismatic, hungry to learn and unafraid of controversy. They matured spectacularly over seven tumultuous years, then quit on a high note with the peerless Abbey Road.

They were a genuine band, in that the whole was greater than the sum of its parts. The three writers spurred each other on and checked each other's excesses (McCartney's sentimentality, Lennon's bile and Harrison's cod mysticism). In one throwaway B-side, Rain, they created the template for psychedelic Britpop, a genre lesser bands spend an entire career mining. Their refusal to write the same song twice resulted in a catalogue of breathtaking diversity, while producer George Martin gave the recordings a unique, uncluttered sound that refuses to date. And, as the age of the drum solo dawned, Ringo kept it real, underpinning the Beatles' sound with undemonstrative precision.

Greg Hassall

AGAINST

Pretty much everyone in the '60s must have been on drugs - that's the only reason I can imagine why the Beatles were so popular. They had about three decent songs: Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, Eleanor Rigby - and that other one, the one that doesn't suck. It's a riddle greater than the pyramids as to why a group of English fops with ridiculous hairstyles could make entire crowds of grown adults faint in awe. John Lennon? A prancing popinjay. Paul McCartney? A ponce. George Harrison? Vanity in the shape of a man. Ringo Starr?

A cool dude - the only one.

OK, so the Beatles recorded on top of a building. Big deal. OK, so they hung out with the Maharishi. Is that supposed to give their dire tunes spiritual worth?

"But they were a major influence in the history of rock'n'roll," some might bleat. Sure they were - but does that mean the baby boomers have to force their boring Beatlemania down our craws year after year, decade after decade?

I'm glad Yoko Ono helped split them up. She's the true heroine of this story. Too bad she's also a lousy artist.

And Wings. Don't get me started on McCartney's sad side project. That's another story.

- Charles Purcell


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: 60s; babyboomers; beatlemania; beatles; christmastimeishere; genx; rock; rockandroll; rockmusic; the60s; thebeatles; thesixties
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To: Xenalyte

Your favorite band is Sonic Youth? Everything - EVERYTHING - they have ever done is unlistenable. You might as well turn up your guitar to full volume and just leave it on top of your amp. The quality of music is about the same, although I would give a slight edge to the guitar.


301 posted on 12/22/2004 2:43:08 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: NRA1995; Mr. Mojo
I don't think either Frank or the Dead covered EVERY Beatle song, but they did a select few.....

Sinatra did a mean version of "Why Don't We Do It in the Road" on his Stoned Sinatra Picnic LP in '69! ;>)

302 posted on 12/22/2004 2:44:22 PM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: weegee; Mr. Mojo

Well, if I remember my Lennon/Dylan history properly, Dylan intended "4th Time Around" as a mock-up of "Norwegian Wood," although I could be wrong. Maybe Mr. Mojo knows...


303 posted on 12/22/2004 2:46:01 PM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: NRA1995

I'm talking about a number of the musicians, not the listeners.

The suits thought that it was "better" for kids than listening to rock and roll (even though originally the audiences would have been more adult, especially in the preceeding years of jump blues).


304 posted on 12/22/2004 2:53:15 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: NRA1995

Even Dion was a heroin addict by age 12.


305 posted on 12/22/2004 2:53:54 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: HenryLeeII
I know someone who got the complete Frank Sinatra libraries on CD (several hefty boxed sets) and compiled up his own disc of "Frank Sinatra: The 'What The Hell Were You Thinking' Years."

Among the "treasures" are the disco version of "Night & Day".

Frank covered:
All My Loving
Any Time At All
Hey Jude
Something
Yesterday

While daughter Nancy covered:
Day Tripper
Run For Your Life

Not quite enough for an album.

Der Bingle also covered "Hey Jude".

Songs of The Beatles covered by other artists
306 posted on 12/22/2004 3:03:10 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Rebelbase

right on the mark .
TO ALL THE IDIOTS THAT DONT HAVE A CLUE
go listen to your billy joel and elton john music and STFU
THE BEATLES WERE AND ARE AND WILL BE THE GREATEST EVER.

ROCKIN' RONNIE


307 posted on 12/22/2004 3:11:00 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: Junior_G

probably permed long haired pretty boy gay weed
high speed scales players.

oooooooohhhhh!!!!!!


308 posted on 12/22/2004 3:12:31 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: dfwgator
I like the Beatles allot but you are right about the Kinks. Probably one of the most under appreciated bands. Check out this site. 478 songs with Raymond Douglas Davies on all.

http://kinks.it.rit.edu/cgi-bin/MusicSearch.cgi?list=songs
309 posted on 12/22/2004 3:18:45 PM PST by BBell
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

actually they know less than f'n zip.
what a bunch of teeny bop new kids on the block idiots!!!!!!!!
take a poll folks, even when the parents were bashing us for ROCK N ROLL they were humming beatles tunes walking through any mall or doctors office they entered.
tell me your folks are doing the same with emminim
or what ever the latest no talent is pushing.


310 posted on 12/22/2004 3:18:49 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: DoctorMichael

well that says alot about you then don't it.
music is
1 harmony
2 melody
3 rythemn.
you chose only 1 of 3, might as well start chucking spears at wild boers, william golding is looking for new material.
why dont you sign up.


311 posted on 12/22/2004 3:25:24 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: CyberCowboy777

Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (in 10 Million)

And

Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin I (in 8 Million)

are the same album



312 posted on 12/22/2004 3:59:07 PM PST by qam1 (Anyone who was born in New Jersey should not be allowed to drive at night or on hills.)
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To: weegee
My list points out that radio and charts [in the 70s] were dominated by bands that were not rock.

That depends what radio stations you were listening to. The long-gone KMET in L.A. was rock and roll to the core. KLOS and KROQ (in the same area) were also damn good.

I would also take every pre-Wish You Were Here Pink Floyd album over the 1975-2000 albums.

I'd include Animals ('77) in that pre-'75 bunch. ......and perhaps even The Wall ('80).

Even late 70s rock is not so much rock and roll.

The Stones' Some Girls sure was, as was Aerosmith's Rocks ('76), Skynyrd's Street Survivors ('77), Zeppelin's Presence ('77), Neil Young's Rust Never Sleeps ('78), Petty's You're Gonna Get it ('78), Ian Hunter's You're Never Alone with a Schizophrenic ('79), UFO's Strangers in the Night ('78), Bob Seger's Night Moves ('76), George Thorogood's early stuff. ......there was quite a bit out there if one knew where to look.

Yeah, there was a helluva a lot of total junk in the 70s as well (as you pointed out). But each decade has had more than its fair share of the unlistenable. ......the 60s included.

313 posted on 12/22/2004 4:41:41 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: HenryLeeII; weegee
Dylan intended "4th Time Around" as a mock-up of "Norwegian Wood," although I could be wrong.

No, you're right.

314 posted on 12/22/2004 4:43:15 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: HenryLeeII; drjimmy
I just listened to 30 second clips of each song from A Ghost is Born and Being There and from the little I heard I could hardly be more impressed. .......Ordering both albums right now, in fact.
315 posted on 12/22/2004 4:58:18 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: nothingnew

Zappa was genius, one that went over the heads of most, but he left a good library of stuff.

BTW, Get QuAUDIOPHILLIAc, lost quadrophonic recordings, remastered in DTS 6 speaker format. Its amazing, you'll love it, its a way of life...


316 posted on 12/22/2004 4:58:51 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Zappa was a genius.

I remember seeing him on Crossfire in the mid-80s trying to convince Novak that he was a conservative, but I don't think Bob was buying it.

317 posted on 12/22/2004 5:00:54 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

I was just listening to the London Symphony Orchestra CD, its great, but the liner notes where he rips inot the unionized musicians and their obligatory breaks where they went and got drunk were great.

If you go to zappa.com, they run continuous music over your speakers, its cool.


318 posted on 12/22/2004 5:07:44 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed)
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To: qam1
Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust.

The Clash

319 posted on 12/22/2004 5:38:03 PM PST by SoDak (home of Senator John Thune)
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To: Xenalyte

Daydream Nation was very very cool. I just bought Tom Waits latest album today.


320 posted on 12/22/2004 5:38:52 PM PST by SoDak (home of Senator John Thune)
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