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Draft General Tommy Franks(VANITY)
Sola Veritas

Posted on 12/12/2004 9:00:48 PM PST by Sola Veritas

I think it is time that we urge our president to "draft" General Tommy Franks to be the Director of Homeland Security.

I don't know about others here, but I don't want a "cop" or a "politician" for this position. I want a proven military leader. Except for endorsing President Bush, General Franks has stayed pretty clear of politics. I think he is the right man at the right time. I don't think Franks would want this job. That makes him and even better choice. Plus, I really think if the president appealed to him, he would accept.

The fact that he was a successful combat general speaks well of him. A good general knows that his job is to exhude leadership and to pick a great staff. It is a general's staff that makes or breaks him. General Franks would have the good sense to pick a diverse staff to give him input from many views from which he can make a decision. This is what we need in our director of homeland security - many views examined with sound decisions resulting. I think Franks is the general to get this done.

Well, that is one man's opinion.


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1 posted on 12/12/2004 9:00:48 PM PST by Sola Veritas
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No, we don't want a military type for this job... the Military stays in the Military.


2 posted on 12/12/2004 9:02:34 PM PST by oolatec
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To: Sola Veritas

He is a great general, but it takes a differnt kind of person to run the Homeland Security.

How about ZELL MILLER?


3 posted on 12/12/2004 9:06:27 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Sola Veritas
We are at war...against enemies both foreign and domestic... a military man of Gen Frank's exemplary character is precisely what we need...

With the emphasis on...Gen Frank's character...

imo
4 posted on 12/12/2004 9:09:25 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Sola Veritas
I disagree. We shouldn't get a soldier to do this. We aren't looking to impose martial law on the streets of this country. We want someone with a background in intelligence who can get all these various bureaucracies to work together to prevent terrorist attacks. I don't know who fits this description, but Tommy Franks (I love the guy, by the way) is not the guy to do it. Nominate him to joint chiefs or something like that, but not to Homeland Security. Zell Miller may not be a bad idea, except I would bet he really wants to go back to Georgia and relax.
5 posted on 12/12/2004 9:14:03 PM PST by dmc8576 (High School Students for Bush - 325 members ....Students for Kerry - 20 members. ENOUGH SAID!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

No Zell won't do.
We need someone who has actually RUN a large and complex
organization. That leaves out virtually ANY politician.
All they would do is start setting up a fifedom.

This is EXACTLY the kind of job for a General, or a Governor.

I can't imagine what your objection to Franks would be.


6 posted on 12/12/2004 9:17:24 PM PST by konaice
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We aren't looking to impose martial law on the streets of this country.

I'm personally insulted that you think Franks would do this and I'm astounded at your ignorance for thinking he would have that power.

This job needs an able administrator of a large complex organization. There is no politician that can do that except for Governors of large states. But Admirals and Generals do this all the time.

7 posted on 12/12/2004 9:20:13 PM PST by konaice
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To: dmc8576

"We aren't looking to impose martial law on the streets of this country."

A good general knows his enemy and how to fight him. Ergo, he would not impose "martial law." I emphasize we need someone who knows how to assemble a good staff. It is the staff, not the general, that does the work. The general just makes the final decisions.

I do appreciate your concerns, and don't mean to belittle them. I personally am scared of a "cop" getting the position and was quite relieved when "Kerik" withdrew. I also think that a "politician", even one I like, can get this dones - too much baggage.


8 posted on 12/12/2004 9:20:49 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
I popped into this thread to state that I hadn't considered Franks but thought it was a good choice. Then I read post #2. Stopped and thought about it and now I'm not sure.

I think that a lot of people would resent, or at least be skeptical of, a professional military man as HS director. Never mind that our police force is made up in large part by past military/reserves.

He'd do an excellent job I'm sure but the distraction may be more than it's worth.

9 posted on 12/12/2004 9:22:32 PM PST by ohCompGk
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I think the issue is not that he was professional military.

I think it's a personality issue. I don't know why people think, that just because someone is really great in one particular job, for which he is ideally suited, he would be great in a completely different type of job, for which his temperament would be a liability, not an asset.


10 posted on 12/12/2004 9:27:01 PM PST by FairOpinion
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People, we do not want Military folks taking care of domestic issues. Trust me...

While I have no problems with Franks, he is still Military...


11 posted on 12/12/2004 9:32:42 PM PST by oolatec
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To: Sola Veritas

I'll have to agree that the military guys should stick with military issues. Franks is one hell of a guy, but the best man for the job is going to be a reliable leader with years of experience and accumulated wisdom in federal law enforcement or intelligence. I agree we don't want a political career-mongerer for this position, but someone with experience in law enforcement/intelligence, with characteristics such as maturity, good moral character, and know-how is what's needed for the task.


12 posted on 12/12/2004 9:40:49 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: FairOpinion
I'm afraid that my knowledge of the executive branch doesn't go much beyond knowing to always say "yes sir" but I don't understand why a man that has excelled at international peace keeping would be unqualified for an internal peace keeping position.

I can see that a lot of people would feel it leaned too far towards a military state regardless of how silly the idea is.
13 posted on 12/12/2004 9:47:35 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: ohCompGk

It has nothing to do with a militarized state.

Franks is great at tactical decisions, but running a large department is very different.


14 posted on 12/12/2004 9:52:40 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Too old .. wants a more leisurely life with his family .. counseling as he wishes to a well-known law firm. He will add a special patina, wherever he goes, God love him.


15 posted on 12/12/2004 9:58:10 PM PST by STARWISE (Pray for our country, our incredible President, and our unbelievably brave troops.)
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To: oolatec
People, we do not want Military folks taking care of domestic issues.

I'm on my way to getting old and Clinton is the only President in my lifetime that wasn't ex-military. I have a hard time thinking about relinquishing control to exclusively non-military.

16 posted on 12/12/2004 9:59:03 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: ohCompGk

I've been thinking Richard Armitage .. he's tough, fearless and straight talking.


17 posted on 12/12/2004 9:59:48 PM PST by STARWISE (Pray for our country, our incredible President, and our unbelievably brave troops.)
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To: Sola Veritas

yes and no...

yes because he is a hell of an organizer and would be able to pull it off with some form of success. Remember he did run CENTCOM and like every other major American command, he had an intel shop working for him there. It runs very very well I might add.

But I doubt he will do it. I honestly think he is the defense secretary waiting in the wings. If Rummy should have health problems or should decide to retire, we all know who should be picked....

Giuliani is still the perfect guy for this job. The problem is, he won't take it.


18 posted on 12/12/2004 10:03:02 PM PST by MikefromOhio (27 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: MikeinIraq

Why Guiliani? Just wondering.


19 posted on 12/12/2004 10:04:57 PM PST by Free and Armed
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To: FairOpinion
but running a large department is very different.

As opposed to what? Invading a country?

20 posted on 12/12/2004 10:05:48 PM PST by ohCompGk
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