NCAA Hoops Top 25, 11/14/04

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[roadrunner96]

AP TOP 25
1 Kansas (25) 0-0
2 Wake Forest (22) 0-0
3 Georgia Tech (10) 0-0
4 North Carolina (10) 0-0
5 Illinois (2) 0-0
6 Syracuse 2-0
7 Oklahoma State (2) 0-0
8 Connecticut 0-0
9 Kentucky (1) 0-0
10 Arizona 0-0
11 Duke 0-0
12 Mississippi State 2-0
13 Michigan State 0-0
14 Louisville 0-0
15 Maryland 0-0
16 Texas 0-0
17 Pittsburgh 0-0
18 Alabama 0-0
19 North Carolina State 0-0
20 Notre Dame 0-0
21 Wisconsin 0-0
22 Washington 0-0
23 Florida 0-0
24 Memphis 2-0
25 Gonzaga 0-0

COACHES TOP 25
1 Kansas (8) 0-0
2 Wake Forest (12) 0-0
3 North Carolina (6) 0-0
4 Georgia Tech (1) 0-0
5 Illinois (1) 0-0
6 Syracuse 2-0
7 Connecticut 0-0
8 Oklahoma State (1) 0-0
9 Kentucky 0-0
10 Michigan State 0-0
11 Arizona 0-0
12 Duke 0-0
13 Louisville (1) 0-0
14 Mississippi State 2-0
15 Texas 0-0
16 Maryland 0-0
17 Pittsburgh 0-0
18 Alabama 0-0
19 North Carolina State 0-0
20 Wisconsin 0-0
21 Notre Dame 0-0
22 Florida 0-0
23 Memphis 2-0
24 Washington 0-0
25 Stanford 0-0

[roadrunner96]

The Olympics showed the World that the NBA was not invincible. People are looking at both pro and college ball in a different light. This is almost a preseason poll; but a few games have been played. Why not start out early in looking at the college game?

For the record, I have been checking out a few polls, here Mark Bradley submitted a listing for the Atlanta Journal Constitution http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/ncaahoops/2004/14bradrank.html ; One may note his listing is heavily oriented towards his area of the country, nothing wrong with that.

Any other polls are welcome. This thread may not generate a lot of interest this early on, but at least it's on the board; and we all know that once the big dance begins, many are following the games.

As to the numbers appearing after the teams listed in parentheses, these must be the number of first place votes these teams generated.

[Perdogg]

University of National Champions

[roadrunner96]

That's great, UNC, like so much on free republic I didn't get it until I went to another page. Fine state, I've been there but not for long enough; but I must tell an alumnus I know from there this.

[1john2 3and4]

See you (& beat you again) December 4

2nd in Championships (count the banners, tarheels!)to ucla

UNC is my favorite team to beat! Better than Loouhvul & Indiana ....& we OWN the tarheels the way the cowboys own the redskins (*sob*)

tarheels better get used to seeing a real whiner

Oh, I almost forgot: Kentucky = #1 in all time victories....count 'em again heels.

[1john2 3and4]

The Eastern media establishment loves the Atlantic Coast Conference, and unc in particular. Want to see bias? Watch Billy Packer call any ACC game against....especially Kentucky....but anyone.

Dean Smith is lionized by the faithful, yet he almost single-handedly destroyed the great game of college basketball with the "4 corners"....
Now you may hear from the 'anything it takes to win' crowd....
also known in other circles as 'the ends justifies the means' crowd....

Oh, and despite having the best player who ever put on a uniform in the whole game (Michael Jordan).....how many championships did deano win?

Duke's Coach K singlehandedly personifies great competitive sportsmanship. I will always like the Dukies because the way he grabbed Caewood Ledford's mic after the '92 game to talk to the UK radio listeners. (Laettner's last sec. shot - often cited as the best basketball game, ever).

[roadrunner96]

Awesome Answers Baby !!!!

We know who's a big Duke fan, the man in the picture; some interesting readings here and I'm just going to keep it short; we need to follow the season more closely; March Magic is months away, but I got a taste of it already!

We know who's a big Duke fan, the man in the picture; some interesting readings here and I'm just going to keep it short; we need to follow the season more closely; March Magic is months away, but I got a taste of it already!

[1john2 3and4]

Say what you want....Dickie V is great for the game. He has FUN, the way AL Mcguire used to.... *sure miss him*....and if he's a Dukie, which I don't doubt, he at least gives the other teams credit....his 'homey' is hard to spot.

besides, what's not to like about coach K? I heard V say this once, to the effect that if Pitino would've stayed at Kentucky, he'd be the icon of the dynasty the way K is. I don't hate Ricky, btw, the way some fans do. Hey, I'd've gone for 70 mil., wouldn't you? Anyway, I'm hearing some awesome buzz from Kentucky; Tubby's best class, talented freshman, expecting headlines such as: "Sparks Sparks Cats" (to Another UNC Stomp hehe had to throw that in!)(re: transfer Patrick Sparks). Really looking forward to it. Besides unc, we play Kansas, Indiana (we own them too, lately anyway!), Loouvul (Ricky owns us! lol).

[roadrunner96]

The Cuse and Mississippi St. with Vitale announcing is on; he looks like he's tired, must just be because it's early in the season.

Also, I did realize right after my last post, I said March Magic, I meant March Madness, I have cap that reads that; must be early in the season.

[1john2 3and4]

lol.....I really do miss the dish. Here in my area there's only 1 or 2 options for viewing. I shut it off last March, since there's no sports I'm interested in thru the summer.

I enjoyed watching the Bosox, but got enough on regular tv. Even though Texas has been decent for a few years, and the big 12 is a good league, with ok state, kansas, and bobby knight!, it seems like bball just doesn't capture people's passion the way football does. Hey, this is Texas!

One year the local news did high school sports first, then moved on to the UK/IU score! Arguably the greatest non-conference rivalry in the country, and it gets 2nd fiddle around here. In many ways it's a college bball wasteland. Makes Texas' recent accomplishments even more remarkable, imo. I get to sneak in TCU's court when Ricky & Loouvul comes to town (try getting a ticket at Rupp....and it's 10 times the size of Daniel Meyer!)....TCU even had Billy Tubbs for a few years, no longer.

Miss. State should be really tough this year, but that's the beauty of the college game, isn't it? Ya never know! Let me know how it looked. Hope V is alright, physically. I'd hate to see him go.

[1john2 3and4]

ping a ling a ling!

[1john2 3and4]

WOW! 2 words for Mr. 'Uni of Nat. Champs' (perdogg)....

Santa Clara
I won't pile on any more....he's hurting enough!

Just proves what a fantastic game college B-ball is, eh?

[1john2 3and4]

Santa visited unc early this year.....unfortunately, her name was Clara!

[1john2 3and4]

I thought we were the FR B-ball thread?

Oh well, we'll see :)
Interesting Kentucky info I got from a friend:

Sparks sparks Cats! You were right about that! He scored 20 in the game against Ball State! Lets hear it for those slow, can't jump white rural Kentucky boys who do nothing but bleed BLUE! He had a breakout game and you know what, we are going to love this guy as much as the opposing coaches are going to hate him! Coaches son, assist maestro, and Kentucky longrifle shooter! By the way, newsflash, 7' 3" Shagari Alleyne ( you remember him - mega stiff from last year ), he had 4 dunks in 5 minutes in the second half and along with Patricks shooting ignited 2ea - 12 to 2 runs that blew a gritty Ball State squad in the weeds - stole their heart just like Pitino ball! Spurtability! bro should be a part of this young but talented team! Shag (as he is being called here) ran the floor like a runaway freight train and picked up 2 of the dunks on fast breaks off of lobs. The rolaids consumption just went up among the coaches who play us this year. Shag running the floor is a scary sight, I didn't know he could do that! It kinda reminded you of Sam Bowie doing that his freshman year, you know, not first man down, but trailing the first man down - WOW! He has gained 20 lbs of muscle in the weight room (271 lbs) and is learning to move his feet more quickly.I really didn't think he would be ready til next year or maybe his senior year, he definitely adds an opposing coaches insomnia factor to the cats game! The only other player in the country like him is Luke Senscher at Ga. Tech! Tallest player to ever wear a Ky uniform! And he is 3rd team center behind frosh Morris 6' - 10" 270lbs, and a stronger and improved Wookash Orbzuit ( he has actually made a three this year already ) 7' 1" 270 lbs. We are green, but have great size inside. Rondo (freshman) is starting at point with Sparks (4th year Jr) at 2, Azibuike at 3, and Chuck at 4. Be sure to put Dec 4 on your schedule - The dreaded tarheels vs the precocious cats! CBS WWWOOOOOOO!!!! We may not win it all, but it is going to be a fun ride!!!!

The roliads line really had me laffin....