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The Hobbit Hole XVII - A new road or a secret gate...
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Posted on 11/03/2004 6:16:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

A new road or a secret gate...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: Alkhin

I am wishing I had some right now. 1800 is ~smooth~.

(I took my mother to this restaurant 8 years ago. I got to drive home.)


3,281 posted on 11/22/2004 10:25:54 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby

Reynosa the town...right on the border. I dont remember what the bar/restaurant was called...something generically Mexican, like El Monterrey or El Torro. Something like that. NEver did get a drink. Last time I went down there was when I was 14 or 15. We drove down in our diesel-fueled station-wagon! I was SO bored!


3,282 posted on 11/22/2004 10:27:23 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: Alkhin

Raining here too. It has been raining off and on all day. It is supposed to T-storm tommorrow.

I guess I had one cup of coffee too many today.

Did you ever find anything out about the SS agent?


3,283 posted on 11/22/2004 10:28:03 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: Alkhin

egads! I just realized I am freezing. We turned the a/c back on over the weekend and *someone* (namely, me) forgot to turn it off.


3,284 posted on 11/22/2004 10:30:22 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby

The more it
SNOWS-tiddely-pom,
The more it
GOES-tiddely-pom
The more it
GOES-tiddely-pom
On
Snowing.

And nobody
KNOWS-tiddely-pom,
How cold my
TOES-tiddely-pom
How cold my
TOES-tiddely-pom
Are
Growing.


3,285 posted on 11/22/2004 10:34:17 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby

No...I don't expect I will hear anything for a few days, if indeed my friend's son was involved. My friend attends the same church as my uncle, so if there is anything to know, I am sure my uncle will inform me. I am not so close to the family as just very familiar. Ms. S's class was my one escape during highschool...and somehow I managed to make a good impression upon her and I have been lucky enough that that opinion has held all these years. I don't think she is happy that I have left the Roman Catholic church, but I told her the whole story of when the first break happened, and she still treats me as a friend. She was definitely a blessing in my life!


3,286 posted on 11/22/2004 10:35:45 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: Alkhin

I have been meaning to ask you, and keep forgetting. Is your church associated with ECUSA or is it separate? I noticed it calls itself Anglican and not Episcopal.


3,287 posted on 11/22/2004 10:39:32 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby
It is NOT associated with the ECUSA. It was formed back in the 70s when the ECUSA made some decidedly liberal changes and left a lot of the traditional Episcopalians frustrated and angry. I think it was begun as a way of reasserting the Apostolic tradition and original intent of the Church when it first began, but that is where it starts get confusing for people, especially when the established meme is that the CoE didnt start until Henry VIII. What I learned from this church is that the history of the disparity between Rome and England is that it goes as far back as William the Conqueror.

I am still learning about all of this. I understand it, but have trouble communicating it. We are so similar to both the ECUSA High Church and the RCC Vatican I that its hard to distinguish how we are different, other than the fact that we don't look to the RCC Pope as our authority. We have an archbishop, but I have seen how the Synod works, and it is spookily like that of our own government, with a House (of Lay People) and a "Senate" (of Clergy) and the final veto is reserved for the Archbishop, whose power is very similar to the President of the US. Watching these people at the Provincial Synod last fall in New Orleans gave me the impression of where our Founding Fathers might have obtained their Parliamentary ideas. It was very educational!

3,288 posted on 11/22/2004 10:48:10 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: Alkhin

Interesting! Does it fall into the hierarchy of the Church of England then?


3,289 posted on 11/22/2004 10:52:34 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby

Ill be right back...all this talk of Mexican drinks/cuisine has made me hungry! LOL


3,290 posted on 11/22/2004 11:00:26 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: Alkhin

Well, the clean laundry is in the dryer, the dog let out and back in, and I drank a nice tall glass of water. The locks are rechecked, and all lights out (except for my lamp at the desk).

Hmm, if only I had the enxt book in the Master and Commander series to read. Funny, for Christmas last year I got Master and Commander in my stocking. I got around to reading it while I was expecting bittygirl. I finished it THIS MORNING. It takes a while when you only read it in the pick-up line at the school. LOL!


3,291 posted on 11/22/2004 11:04:17 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: Alkhin

I need chocolate! A Mexican hot cocoa would be yummy about now!

Ever tried *this* recipe?

4 ounces unsweetened chocolate
4 cups milk
2 cups heavy cream
3/4 cup sugar
1 1/2 teaspoons cinnamon
2 eggs
3 teaspoons pure vanilla extract

Melt the chocolate in the top of a double boiler. In a separate heavy saucepan heat the milk and cream on low until hot but not bubbling. When the milk mixture is hot add 3 tablespoons of it to the chocolate and mix well. Blend in the rest of the milk mixture, the sugar, and the cinnamon. In a small bowl beat the eggs and vanilla. Add a tablespoon of the chocolate mixture to the eggs and beat well. Slowly stir the egg mixture into the chocolate. Whisk the hot chocolate briskly in the double boiler for 3 minutes, then serve immediately.

Makes 8 servings.

Preparation Time: 10 minutes
Cooking Time: 15 minutes
Total Time: 25 minutes


3,292 posted on 11/22/2004 11:10:44 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby
Nope...doesnt fall into the heirarchy of the CoE either. Its a completely separate church. The REALLY confusing thing is that there are a whole bunch of churches out there now who have broken off either from the RCC or from the CoE in an attempt to distinguish themselves from those mainline churches, but they still use things like "Old Catholic" or "Anglican".

the way it was explained to me, as far as the ACC is concerned, is that they were not trying to form a 'new' church per se, but simply trying to 'go back to the roots' of when the Church started in England. For me there was no real draw as far as England was concerned. I was looking for a church home and I felt I was INVITED to be a part of this church. The language of the Book of Common Prayer was so unlike anything I had read in an RCC service that I felt I had found a church that had been hidden for ages. To me, at any rate, the prayers and focus of worship are humble and clearly focused, that I felt was finally able to figure out what my place in the world was. For someone who is adopted and feeling very much at odds with her environment, this was very appealing to me.

3,293 posted on 11/22/2004 11:16:12 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: msdrby

Here is the one I like...

I N G R E D I E N T S
2 cups milk
1 disk of Mexican chocolate or (4 ounces dark bitter chocolate)
1 vanilla bean, split lengthwise

I N S T R U C T I O N S
Warm the milk and chocolate in a saucepan. Scrape the seeds from the vanilla bean and add the seeds and bean to the milk.
Stir with a molinillo or whisk until the chocolate is melted and the mixture begins to boil. Remove from the heat and froth the chocolate with the molinillo or the whisk. Serve immediately in ample sized mugs.


3,294 posted on 11/22/2004 11:18:01 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: Alkhin

The church that PE and I attend is at odds with the ECUSA. They have joined what is known as the Anglican Communion. I am not sure that it is a church governing body or whether it is within the CoE. I think it is apart from both ECUSA and CoE, but I am not sure.


3,295 posted on 11/22/2004 11:20:50 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby
Oh they ALL sound delicious!!! Its still too muggy here on the Coast to have anythig approaching hot chocolate...may just have to turn the AC down a few notches to feel the season!! But then its always that way in Tx. I will feel lucky if temps drop to the 40s...and then we might consider at least opening the windows to let in the air.

but I am definitely gonna take note of those to use when I do get a hankering for hot chocolate.

3,296 posted on 11/22/2004 11:24:10 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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The ACC claims an Anglican Communion as well. That's the really confusing part isnt it? There seem to be so many that are varying shades of one degree or another, that to define their differences can be a real challenge. For RCCers it boils down to whether or not we give allegiance to the Pope, and so its easy with them, but among the Anglican traditions, the definitions can be a bit trickier. I was attracted to the ACC because I wanted a church that was not only adhering to original Apostolic tradition, but would at least stand on doctrine. I had been to a number of ECUSA churches where the membership reacted in horror when I asked them why they didnt keep to the more traditional aspects of their faith. The automatic reaction was "but we don't want to scare people off with dogma and doctrine." But how can we know what we stand for if there is no discussion of that???

Does your church have a website?

3,297 posted on 11/22/2004 11:31:47 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: Alkhin

And if I made any sense with THAT last babble, I'll consider myself not drunk yet. But i think i am wrong : I am starting to feel the effects of 1800 Reposado.


3,298 posted on 11/22/2004 11:33:29 PM PST by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a woman! We are doomed!" - - Jack Aubrey, M&C series)
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To: Alkhin

I was raised Methodist and joined the Lutheran church in college. Little did I know that my dad's family was traditionally Lutheran, LOL. PE is Episcopal, and we decided to attend the Episcopal church here in town. It still calls itself Episcopal, but the entire diocese is extremely conservative and does not really associate with the ECUSA, except when it otherwise cannot be avoided. The parish is now associated with the Anglican Communion.
http://www.anglicancommunionnetwork.org/home/index.cfm

http://www.faith-church.org/
It is a conservative church, and extremely welcoming. Like you, that was my draw to it. I am comfortable there because the liturgy is very close to if not the same as what the Lutheran church uses. It isn't high-church, but it is just as meaningful. Add to it that it is not some megachurch with all the frills. Okay, there are cookies and juice after the service, but you have to be quick to beat the kiddos. I do not believe that megachurches are necessarily wrong, I am just more comfortable in a much smaller setting.

Another plus is that our priest is a Tolkien fan!


3,299 posted on 11/22/2004 11:40:12 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: Alkhin

It is 72 degrees in here, 59 outside. Plus, it is humid. I'm pretty cold. While I was downstairs a few minutes ago, I turned the a/c to 77. Hopefully, it won't turn back on tonight.


3,300 posted on 11/22/2004 11:43:45 PM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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