Okay ... here's the deal: If no one makes a big deal about my having a shot or two and rolling a rare enough Gauloise while my dough chills, I'll turn theFirmbss onto HUBIG'S PIES (do NOT miss the Sweet Potato, baby, no matter what you do).
The "factory" is about five blocks from me and puts Hostess to shame, I assure you ....
I've seen that FoodTV program that's given HUBIG'S PIES problems.
Their pies do sound great. And no preservatives!!! I could eat them!!! (However, even if I had the spare change to do so, with a MINIMUM order being 5 dozen or more, it'd be a bit risky to have that many on hand! LOL