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What does it take to move 380 tons?

Posted on 10/26/2004 6:28:23 PM PDT by BobKrumm

As a former armor officer I’ve had the opportunity to supervise the loading of large amounts of ammunition and explosives on and off trucks. But never have I tried to move 380 tons, or three-quarters of a million pounds, of ammunition from one location to another. So I did a little math to see what it would take for a highly-organized and well-trained unit to move the quantity of explosives that was allegedly moved out of the Iraqi ammo depot 18 months ago.

It requires 30,400 armloads, at 25 pounds per armload, to move this amount of explosives. If you assume that one trip to the truck and back takes one minute (I timed myself from my living room to the end of my driveway and back at 59.6 seconds), then one man could load 1,000 pounds into a pickup truck every 40 minutes. That one man, assuming he worked 24 and 7 could load those trucks in slightly over 21 days.


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To: BobKrumm

Oh, shoot, you guys are getting way too carried away with all the picky details of how hard it would be to move the stuff. You're supposed to simply swallow what the NYT puts out, aren't you??? In the old days no one questioned them.....


41 posted on 10/26/2004 6:58:06 PM PDT by Another Thought
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To: BobKrumm

10 Semis. Maybe fewer. A couple of hours to load each one using forklifts (carry in, carry out) and relatively unlimited slave labor. Drive to Syria, shoot the slaves for the sake of tidiness.

Assuming they ever existed.


42 posted on 10/26/2004 6:59:02 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Coachm

I know---every time I see a 75- or 76- I feel the same way.


Wish some of the undecideds felt the same we did....


43 posted on 10/26/2004 6:59:20 PM PDT by fastattacksailor (Edward M. Kennedy: The Naval Hero of Chappaquiddick!)
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To: Another Thought

The readers of the NYTs of old bought everything Walter Duranty had to say, why not now, just different author.


44 posted on 10/26/2004 7:00:29 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: BobKrumm

My BAD

I forgot to tell you that the fully loaded B747-400 DID NOT have Michael Mooooooore in it.

I apologise for the error!


45 posted on 10/26/2004 7:01:38 PM PDT by fastattacksailor (Edward M. Kennedy: The Naval Hero of Chappaquiddick!)
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To: bobsunshine

That's a great site. Much better info.


46 posted on 10/26/2004 7:01:44 PM PDT by SolidRedState (Free Martha)
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To: fastattacksailor
A Fully-loaded (with fuel) Boeing 747-400 aircraft is 845,000 pounds that is (using the 2,200lb ton) approximately 384.1 TONS

Try moving that!

Saw one towed by a pickup on TV. So?

47 posted on 10/26/2004 7:04:31 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: calenel

So?

Because usually 380 tons ain't mounted on wheels---and being dragged through the sand, that's why......


"Saw one towed by a pickup on TV. So?"


48 posted on 10/26/2004 7:08:24 PM PDT by fastattacksailor (Edward M. Kennedy: The Naval Hero of Chappaquiddick!)
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To: BobKrumm

Using your numbers, we should have attacked Iraq at least one to two months EARLIER to secure these Weapons of Semi Mass Destruction.

I SEE THE LOGIC NOW!!!

At that time Kerry was still FOR the war in Iraq, before he voted against it! He must have used Edwards vaunted psychic channeling powers to know that we needed to be there then, but not later.


49 posted on 10/26/2004 7:08:32 PM PDT by shibumi (HELP! HELP! We've lost our accordian and can't shoot the ducks!)
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To: cynicom
Are you gonna tell on us??? Or are you gonna do something naughty in our sandbox???

Well... I suppose I'm content with our killing naughty people in Iraq's sand.

50 posted on 10/26/2004 7:13:43 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: unspun

I know you mean well. I can accept that.


51 posted on 10/26/2004 7:17:37 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: fastattacksailor

"Because usually 380 tons ain't mounted on wheels---and being dragged through the sand, that's why...... "

You claiming that Iraq hadn't yet discovered the wheel? Or what? Do you have some inside knowledge that the Iraqis were somehow against using wheels to move this stuff?


Oh, BTW "Saw one towed by a pickup on TV. So?" was a joke. Lighten up, Frances. That stick does NOT belong there.


52 posted on 10/26/2004 7:20:44 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: BobKrumm
Hey, maybe they used a bus. I heard they are good at packing those.



Or maybe a train.


53 posted on 10/26/2004 7:27:59 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: mhking

I think officially Superman can bench 100 tons, so he might need Hulk and Thor to lend a hand for that much :)


54 posted on 10/26/2004 7:29:23 PM PDT by Fedora (Trolls sleep--but I don't.)
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To: Kackikat

I don't think the UN can possibly load a bunch of trucks for any reason. Saddam knows what happened. Let's wait for his trial!


55 posted on 10/26/2004 7:30:16 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS

I don't believe Sadaam is going to own up to anything, except that he is President of Iraq, and he wants his crown back..lol


56 posted on 10/26/2004 7:32:44 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: T. P. Pole

Well, that's an efficient way to move a bunch of HE. One fuse and detonator, please...


57 posted on 10/26/2004 7:33:36 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobKrumm

A Klingon Bird of Prey, properly modified, can beam up 400 tons in a matter of seconds.

58 posted on 10/26/2004 7:37:03 PM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Kackikat

That might be another point. How many people were scamming him and the Oil-for-Food pgm. at the same time? All those hundreds of millions of US Dols that were found there may be the tip of the iceberg here. And where did those WMD's in Jordan come from?


59 posted on 10/26/2004 7:39:39 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS

I believe they were Sadaam's too, he may have scattered them over several countries.


60 posted on 10/26/2004 7:47:51 PM PDT by Kackikat
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