Gravel trucks haul 20 tons at a time. That makes 19 trucks. Like I said.
Posted on 10/26/2004 6:28:23 PM PDT by BobKrumm
As a former armor officer I’ve had the opportunity to supervise the loading of large amounts of ammunition and explosives on and off trucks. But never have I tried to move 380 tons, or three-quarters of a million pounds, of ammunition from one location to another. So I did a little math to see what it would take for a highly-organized and well-trained unit to move the quantity of explosives that was allegedly moved out of the Iraqi ammo depot 18 months ago.
It requires 30,400 armloads, at 25 pounds per armload, to move this amount of explosives. If you assume that one trip to the truck and back takes one minute (I timed myself from my living room to the end of my driveway and back at 59.6 seconds), then one man could load 1,000 pounds into a pickup truck every 40 minutes. That one man, assuming he worked 24 and 7 could load those trucks in slightly over 21 days.
I read a report today, and I will try to find it and post, that said the Pentagon suspected the explosives were moved shortly after the UN inspectors left, but before or at least immediately after the beginning of the actual fighting.
By US standards, trucks can overload to 50 tons while flying to Vegas at 80 MPH. But I understand those chemicals were supposed to be in powder form, to be combined with binding resins and oxidizers later. So maybe one 40' semi may be expected to carry 20 tons. Divide 380/20= 19. And that stuff isn't ready to just blow up. You can't just throw a ciggie butt into it. And they don't have trucks like we do to travel decent roads in the desert. So maybe 10 ton/truck over shitty roads with big holes blown in them.
38 crappy Iraq-standard trucks might do it. Or the UN did it themselves.
I'm still new at this. Why doesn't this thread show up on the default page? Can someone help me correct this?
That's why the rest of us were advising the looters to use 60 foot vans!
Gravel trucks haul 20 tons at a time. That makes 19 trucks. Like I said.
Gravel trucks haul 20 tons at a time. That makes 19 trucks
Yes--20 tons of gravel. Don't confuse weight with volume. For instance, a sack of cement weighs 90 pounds & a much larger sack of dogfood will weigh 40 pounds.
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Spoil sport..No one asked you to play in our sandbox.
A GREAT post----
For those trying to PICTURE 380 tons, try this:
A Fully-loaded (with fuel) Boeing 747-400 aircraft is 845,000 pounds that is (using the 2,200lb ton) approximately 384.1 TONS
Try moving that!
Ha
Probably would take about 4,000 of them Toyota trucks they use over there...
a whole bunch of democrats
Your post just gave me the image of the planes hitting the twin towers. Talk about a spooky thought...
My vote is on UN moving it, since they were involved in that other scandal. I really believe it was gone before we got there. THE UN LOST IT ON THEIR WATCH, so LOOK AT THEIR STOCKPILES...OH I forgot that is secret info only Kerry can help you with.
Oh... o-k. Let's just keep this to ourselves. It's not like we can reach Kerry voters with facts and logical arguments, anyway.
Let's take that 760 half-ton pickup truck hypothesis and go with it. Let's send emails to John Kerry and ask him to look into what nasty American company armed Iraq with all those trucks.
Sorry, it wasn't the Pentagon it was the UN itself.
Here is a link to the whole story and a few snippets.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933/
On March 15, said Melissa Fleming, a spokeswoman for the IAEA, “the seals on the doors on the bunkers were checked at many of the bunkers to see if they were still there and hadn’t been tampered with, and that was the case.”
snip
The Iraq Survey Group discovered that the stockpiles of HMX and RDX were missing on May 27, seven weeks after the last visit by U.S. troops.
snip
Lt. Col. Fred Wellman, the unit’s spokesman, appeared to confirm NBC’s report in an e-mail message Tuesday to The Associated Press, saying the brigade did not have orders to search for the explosives that Iraqi officials say were stolen.
The soldiers “secured the area they were in and looked in a limited amount of bunkers to ensure chemical weapons were not present in their area,” Wellman wrote. “Bombs were found but not chemical weapons in that immediate area.
“Orders were not given from higher to search or to secure the facility or to search for HE type munitions [high-explosive weapons], as they were everywhere in Iraq,” he wrote.
What does it take to move 380 tons?Superman?
Just damn.
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SEE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256476/posts
Also
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002869.php
He has some interesting estimates!!!
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