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Freeper reporting thread: Kerry GOTV efforts compared to GOP 72-hour plan
10/24/04 | myself

Posted on 10/24/2004 6:38:37 PM PDT by rwfromkansas

I thought it might be worth it to compile a thread concerning Democratic/Kerry GOTV efforts in contrast to Bush/GOP efforts. How is Kerry's plan shaping up in contrast to the 72-hour plan of Bush?

How will Moveon's massive GOTV efforts help Kerry? Will other private groups help Kerry enough to give him the GOTV edge? Will Republican private groups counter the Dem private groups with GOTV?

Particularly...and this why I posted this thread due to my curiosity...what are you hearing in your neck of the woods if you are in a battleground state? What are the campaigns doing in Ohio, Florida, Michigan (though probably will go Kerry, it is at least competitive), Iowa, Wisconsin etc.? How are things going so far for early voting turnout in your states with Dems in comparison to Repubs (if your state has early voting)?

Compiling information on this may be useful to see how things are going so far, an indication of overall strength heading into election day.

I think it is important to see what the Dems are planning for GOTV so we can see just how serious our personal efforts will need to be with the 72-hour plan or other GOTV plan.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bush; gotv; kerry
If anybody has anecdotes of turnout or GOTV levels, post them here. Let's crush Kerry like a bug.
1 posted on 10/24/2004 6:38:37 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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This is from US News and World Report (so take it with a grain of salt), but it was way back in early September....it does not mesh with recent articles about the GOTV being roughly even or a slight GOP advantage:

"Republican Worry About Kerry GOTV Efforts.
Republicans today expressed concerns that the Bush-Cheney team hasn't matched the Kerry-Edwards get-out-the-vote efforts for the fall election. Citing reports of hundreds of thousands of Democrats comprising Kerry's GOTV team, a senior Republican official told US News Bulletin, "If that's true I hope we're as good, but I've heard nothing about our effort." GOP officials, however, said that the Republican National Committee has established precinct captains and special GOTV teams that are being regularly briefed on how to get voters to the polls. "We'll be ready when it counts," said a GOP official."


2 posted on 10/24/2004 6:42:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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From Milwaukee paper from yesterday:

"The Bush campaign disputes that analysis and, just like the Democrats, is trying to boost turnout among its own identified supporters so much that it alters the composition of the electorate. Wisconsin had a high turnout in 2000, and Bush almost won a state that had voted Democratic in 1988, 1992 and 1996.

"I'm hoping for a big turnout. I don't think a big turnout necessarily helps the Democrats," says Matthew Dowd, the Bush campaign's chief strategist.

Dowd says he expects the national vote to set records for raw numbers (although not for turnout percentage), rising from 105 million in 2000 to 115 million or even 118 million on Nov. 2...

Based on high voter interest, huge mobilization programs and his view that "George Bush's presidency is a lightning rod," Gans expects the national turnout rate to match or exceed 1992, when it was 55% of voting-age adults.

In Wisconsin, both sides are doing far more organizationally than they did in 2000. Kennedy says there's plenty of anecdotal evidence already for a rise in turnout, from trends in early voting to new registrations - even overseas voting.

"We've got people who left Wisconsin to live overseas. They never bothered to vote in the last 20 years, and now they want to vote," says Kennedy...

Gans believes that a higher turnout favors Democrats, based on the notion that "there's a limited number of incremental voters that the Republicans can get."

Many Democrats agree. The theory: Because some Democratic-leaning groups (African-Americans, Hispanics, low-income voters, single people) tend to vote at lower rates, the Democratic vote has more potential to grow in a high-interest election. Party strategists are touting the possibility of a surge in young voters on and off campus Nov. 2, a development they think would boost Kerry.

"It's always been true and continues to be true. The fact to look for is the size of the turnout," says Gov. Doyle. "The bigger the turnout, the better it is for Democrats."

But the Bush campaign believes its own vote is expandable - that in 2000, turnout among some conservative segments, including evangelical Christians, was not as high as it could have been.

Darrin Schmitz, executive director of the state GOP, says Republicans believe that as many as "200,000 social conservatives" in Wisconsin stayed away from the polls four years ago. He says the Bush campaign's intense outreach to conservative churchgoers, hunters and other targeted groups means "we can certainly compete in the turnout game with the Democrats."

"We haven't seen a 70 percent-plus turnout since 1960," Schmitz says. "If turnout is as high as some people predict, conventional wisdom gets tossed out the window."

Mostly negative, but some hope from Republicans and Dems hinging their hopes on a high turnout only.

Keep in mind Kerry is losing a good portion of support from African-Americans to Bush.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/oct04/269190.asp


3 posted on 10/24/2004 6:52:19 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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From NJ.....

"State Democrats and Republicans are putting the final touches on their get-out-the-vote - or what politicos like to call GOTV - effort.

"We'll have the phone banks and the literature, and we're moving money to county and local organizations," said Assemblywoman Bonnie Watson Coleman, D-Ewing, chairwoman of the Democratic State Committee, which has about $500,000 for GOTV activities.

Brian Callanan, spokesman for the state Republican Party, said the GOP has about 21,000 volunteers for Election Day and $300,000 from the Republican National Committee. The GOP committee has an advertisement on its Web site offering $75 for people to do street work on Election Day.

"We'll be out in force throughout the state getting people to vote the entire Republican ticket from top to bottom," Callanan said.

But for the parties, the difference this year from past elections is that under new campaign finance law, GOTV efforts funded by either state or county party organizations cannot mention either Bush or Kerry. As a result, some congressional campaigns are helping fund county GOTV efforts.

"We're doing that because we can mention Kerry's name and the county organizations can't," said Paul Penna, campaign manager for Rep. Rush Holt, D-Hopewell Township.

Holt's organization is helping pay for the Mercer County Democratic Party's effort.

"We're doing some phone banks to call people, but the crux of our program is a program on Election Day to get people we have identified as Holt supporters or likely supporters to the polls," Penna said.

While the political parties are solidifying their plans, much of the voter efforts on Election Day won't be officially connected to partisan politics. Black churches throughout the state, for instance, are gearing up to get people to the polls.

"We are telling our congregants to make sure they vote and to bring a friend or a neighbor who is not a member of the church to vote with them," said the Rev. Reginald Jackson, executive director of the Black Ministers Council of New Jersey, which has endorsed Kerry.-- -- -- The Rev. Stanley Justice, pastor at the Mount Zion AME Church in Trenton, said he has been preaching for months on the need for people to vote.

"We recognize the importance of this election and we as clergy are doing what we can to make sure that our people exercise their right," Justice said.

Black churches throughout the state are being asked to distribute voter guides that list policy positions for both Kerry and Bush but don't make recommendations on a candidate.

The churches also will provide transportation for voters who need rides to the polls on Election Day and stress to voters the importance of carrying proper credentials.

Jackson said he would like to see at least 70 percent of New Jersey's estimated 500,000 black voters go to the polls.

The Mercer County Central Labor Council, which represents local AFL-CIO unions, will base Election Day operations at the Colonial Firehouse in Hamilton, where 400 to 600 people will begin working at 1 p.m. that day, Maloney said. The council has endorsed the Kerry-Edwards Democratic presidential ticket, Democratic Freeholders Anthony Carabelli and Keith Hamilton, Ewing Democratic Councilman Burt Steinmann and Reps. Chris Smith, R- Hamilton, and Holt.

Maloney said union members will spread out across the county, supporting the endorsed candidates by knocking on doors and making sure people have voted.

"We're going to visit union brothers and sisters," Maloney said. "We're hoping that Kerry carries the state, which he should. We're going to make sure of that."-- -- --

The state Sierra Club chapter plans to do the same. It also supports Kerry-Edwards.

"This is the most important election ever when it comes to the environment," Tittel said. "The reason I say that is this is the first president who has gone out and actively weakened the environment and not had any major environmental initiatives."

Tittel said the Sierra Club will send volunteers on Election Day to talk to people on the streets and outside polling places. Some, he said, will walk door-to-door, while others will team with Democratic organizations.

Yet New Jersey won't be getting all the attention because Pennsylvania is considered more of a swing state. Both campaigns have concentrated on winning Pennsylvania, and Tittel said the Sierra Club has been sending 50 to 100 people to Pennsylvania on weekends. Maloney said his organization also has sent people to Pennsylvania.

Juan Melli-Huber, a Princeton University graduate student and organizer of Mercer County Democracy for America, part of the organization formed by former Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean, said members have been advised either to help county Democrats or to head to Pennsylvania. He said group members have been going to Pennsylvania for about two months, working with another pro-Kerry advocacy group, America Coming Together.

"With the election four years ago, they realize the get-out-the-vote effort is real important," said Melli-Huber, who said his group has a mailing list of more than 1,000 people and monthly meetings that attract 40 to 50 people.

While some push for Kerry-Edwards, others work for the Bush-Cheney ticket, though the Republicans seem to lack support from as many organized special interest groups as the Democrats.

Marie Tasy, New Jersey Right To Life executive director, said group volunteers will be involved in numerous activities on Election Day. She declined to discuss details but mentioned phone banks and literature distribution.

"We definitely believe that New Jersey is winnable for President Bush," Tasy said.-- -- --

Rich Miller, of the Coalition of New Jersey Sportsmen, which supports gun rights, said individual clubs have their own plans, but the statewide group plans a mailing to "a couple hundred thousand" homes. The mailing, he said, will carry a simple message: "Vote for Bush."

Miller said the National Rifle Association, an influential political action organization that typically supports Republicans, doesn't plan major activity in New Jersey, but he said he's confident the coalition's campaign efforts can prove decisive "if everybody votes that we mail to."

http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1098605231304840.xml


4 posted on 10/24/2004 6:58:52 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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Minnesota (DOES THE GOP HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING PEOPLE TO THE POLLS?):

"The state hasn't gone Republican in a presidential election since 1972, but the spreading suburbs of the Twin Cities are providing increasingly fertile territory for the GOP, and Bush campaign aides think they can win.

"We're going to be outspent, we might be outgunned, but we won't be outworked," said Peter Hong, the Bush campaign's Minnesota spokesman.

More than 50,000 Minnesota volunteers are on the rolls for the Bush campaign, which uses them as the basic building block in its get-out-the-vote operation. Bush's campaign has targeted 17 of Minnesota's 87 counties for special effort on Election Day, hoping to bring out the president's most ardent supporters.

Stearns County is a target, as are suburban counties around the Twin Cities and some rural parts of the state. The GOP has a full-time field office in Waite Park, supporting Bush and U.S. Rep. Mark Kennedy, as well as local candidates.

Each of the state's 4,100 precincts has a Bush campaign volunteer in charge of organizing turnout. The other volunteers will be enlisted into calling voters and knocking on doors during the last weekend before the election, as part of the campaign's

"72 Hour Project."

"It's hard for me to believe there are so many people still undecided," Pamela Rieland, 35, of Avon said as she knocked on doors and dropped off literature Oct. 16. None of the dozen or so undecided voters she was looking for was home.

Both campaigns sent miniature armies of volunteers out during a recent weekend, combing the state for the few voters who haven't been identified as a Bush or Kerry supporter yet.

Each campaign sent out walkers with extremely specific lists, looking for no more than a handful of voters on each block.

The lists were so targeted that in some cases the campaigns needed only to contact the husband or wife of a voter they already had on file.

Democrats, allies

Democrats had get-out-the-vote conventions in five Minnesota cities on the same day, trying to prepare hundreds of volunteers for the work they'd be doing on Election Day.

Working from the late Sen. Paul Wellstone's old campaign headquarters in St. Paul, where some of Minnesota's best field operations were mapped out, the Democrat-Farmer-Labor Party has signed up 10,000 to 15,000 volunteers for the final few days. They've given out 60,000 lawn signs and have offices in 16 cities, including downtown St. Cloud.

"This will be the largest GOTV effort in the state's history," said Stacie Paxton, Kerry's spokeswoman in Minnesota. "It's the first time it's been a battleground state."

The Democratic effort will get a major boost from America Coming Together, a group supported by billionaire George Soros that had a $4 million budget in Minnesota to make sure they find every sympathetic voter in the state.

The group's organizers say they've figured out exactly how many votes Kerry will need to win the state, based on past results and expected turnout: 1,319,747.

By Oct. 16, their paid and volunteer field workers already had knocked on 460,000 doors, and before Election Day they plan to hit 700,000.

Canvassers sweep through neighborhoods in the Twin Cities, Duluth and Eveleth with detailed demographic data on their Palm Pilots, uploading the answers to questions they ask every night to update the master voter file.

To help win over undecided voters, the Palm Pilots also are loaded with 30-second videos featuring Minnesotans talking about seven issues in two languages.

On Election Day, as many as 4,000 volunteers will help bring people to polling places. America Coming Together has even recruited a fleet of cab drivers who will give free rides to voters."

http://miva.sctimes.com/miva/cgi-bin/miva?CMN/Local/read.mv+20041024045644+1+


5 posted on 10/24/2004 7:04:12 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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Pennsylvania:

"Republicans have been tasked by the national Bush/Cheney campaign with turning out 125,152 votes for the president, which would be a record...

Republicans have been tasked by the national Bush/Cheney campaign with turning out 125,152 votes for the president, which would be a record.


County Democrat chairman Bruce Beardsley said he thinks the party can produce 70,000 votes for Kerry.


Count on this: If you don’t vote by early afternoon on Nov. 2, some party will be looking for you.


Rolling out the big gun


One of the best GOTV tools in the Republicans’ arsenal is coming to town Wednesday.


The visit to the Lancaster Airport by President Bush is expected to fire up the GOP faithful, as his trip to Hershey last week did.


As Bush supporters entered Republican headquarters Saturday to pick up tickets for the Wednesday rally, some were asked if they would be willing to help by making calls to voters at the campaign’s phone bank.


Republicans, whose biggest margins are in the suburban and rural parts of the county, can be expected to rely on phone calls and neighbor-to-neighbor contact to encourage potential Bush voters to get to the polls.


Chad Weaver, a co-chairman of the county Bush/Cheney campaign, was cagey about GOTV plans. Poll watchers and workers are being trained, he said, and “hundreds of volunteers” will be mobilized for election-day efforts.


Standard GOTV tools on election day involve poll watchers armed with lists of voters identified as supporters. As each voter checks in at the poll, the watcher crosses off the name.


Periodically, other volunteers take names of voters who haven’t turned out yet and start phoning or visiting the missing voters.


“We’re going to do whatever we can to encourage as many Lancastrians to come out and support the president on election day,” Weaver said.


Republicans also are going door-to-door in the city and suburbs. Monday afternoon, a local celebrity – Manheim Township High School and Franklin & Marshall College alumna Jennifer Gareis, who plays Grace on the soap opera “The Young and the Restless,” will be out stumping for Bush and Specter. The trek is organized by Specter’s campaign.


“She wanted to do something for Sen. Specter and President Bush while she was in town,” said Jess Yescalis, a local consultant for Specter and friend of Gareis’.


The national Bush campaign also is encouraging Republicans to each recruit two new Bush voters before election day.


Republicans here are being asked to work harder than ever.

The GOP-dominated “T” in central Pennsylvania has to perform strongly to help offset Kerry’s expected big margins in Philadelphia and some of its suburbs.


U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum, a statewide Republican leader, has said that part of the reason Bush lost Pennsylvania to Al Gore in 2000 was that Republicans were blindsided by a surprisingly strong Democrat GOTV drive in Philadelphia.


An army of 800


Look for some of the same tactics that worked in 2000 for the Democrats to be employed here too.


With county Democrats posting strong registration gains from April to November, the party is now looking to make sure they vote.


Democrats and independents are being bombarded with mailings from the “527” organizations – ostensibly independent, but leaning toward one candidate or another, like America Coming Together and MoveOn.org – on Kerry’s behalf.


Another 45,000 pieces of literature have been mailed by the local party, with another 25,000 handed out at homes and community events.


Last Sunday, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, of Hispanic descent, spoke in Lancaster to energize the Hispanic community. Tonight at the Conestoga Lodge of Elks on South Duke Street, former U.S. senator Carol Moseley Braun will keynote a rally from 4 to 9 as part of the mobilization effort.


And, since much of the party’s strength is in urban areas, house-by-house vote hunts are happening daily.


Beardsley, the county chairman, said about 800 volunteers will be on the streets by election day, including poll watchers at each voting district and a team of attorneys ready to battle any election problems.


The Democrats’ force will include local party workers and activists from out-of-the-area unions.


Beardsley said the party has identified 60,000 to 65,000 voters “who we expect to vote our way,” whether Democrat, independent or Republican.


“All of these people will be contacted one way or the other by election day,” he said, with phone calls, literature drops or mailings.


He thinks the Democrats can expect 70,000 votes for Kerry, in contrast to Gore’s 56,000 in 2000.


In a boost for the Democrats, a team from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, has been doing voter contact work in the city in recent days.


ACORN held a registration drive in Lancaster just before the Oct. 4 deadline.


One resident described the ACORN workers as “really aggressively tracking down voters. They are all from out of town. I have never seen this intensity in my neighborhood.”


Wes Lathrop, an ACORN spokesman in Philadelphia, said he believes all or nearly all of the roughly eight people here are local. They’ll be working through election day on voter contact and turnout.


City voters also got personal visits Saturday from a team of Kerry/Edwards volunteers bused in from the Washington area.


In addition to going door-to-door, some of the activists lined the sidewalks in Penn Square on Saturday and waved Kerry signs at passersby.


Cindy Shogan and Alina Stefanescu, two of the sign crew, said D.C. teams from the Kerry campaign have been coming to Pennsylvania recently to work in a swing state.


The goal: to turn out voters.


“This,” Beardsley said, “is where elections are won or lost.

http://www.lancasteronline.com/pages/news/local/4/9297


6 posted on 10/24/2004 7:10:46 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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WV:

"Republicans claim that Democrats suffer an intensity gap by relying more on hired help. "You can’t buy love," Republican National Chairman Ed Gillespie said.

But you can send it over the Internet. Bush’s campaign corresponds regularly with 6 million supporters via e-mail, who then take national talking points to their neighborhoods or share them online through "virtual precincts."

"We have a large group of committed volunteers who go out every day to their friends and neighbors to try to communicate their views," Nelson said.

Both the Republican and Democratic Parties in West Virginia have dramatically increased their use of e-mail as a means of communication and fundraising.

As early as 18 months ago, the state Democratic Party didn’t have an e-mail database, Scarbro said. Now they have a database packed with 7,000 e-mails of state residents. In addition to door-to-door solicitations and phone calls, Democratic workers also pursue voters in cyberspace, he said.

"We use that network to notify people about events and to notify them about issues," Scarbro said. "They are good fundraising tools to quickly and cheaply make a last minute pitch for extra help on a project."

The Internet has helped the Democrats better compete with Republicans in raising funds, he said.

The West Virginia Republican Party communicated about events and other information among members three years ago largely by paying postage for a newsletter, said Kris Warner, West Virginia Republican Party chairman. Since then, the party has also amassed a large e-mail database, which saves time and money.

"Essentially every message with the team leaders is via the Internet," Warner said.

The push to get voters to come out isn’t limited to simply making contact and disseminating information. The Huntington chapter of the NAACP will get people to the polls on election day in style. The NAACP and OVEC will provide shuttle buses and even limousines to the polls for people in the Fairfield West neighborhood.

"We hope to have a large turnout," said Sylvia Ridgeway, president of the Huntington NAACP. "The word is out and people know how important this election is."

Between now and the election, voters can expect to see what the people of Portsmouth, Ohio, saw last week when canvassers for America Coming Together, who are paid $8 to $10 an hour, walked through a neighborhood carrying $200 Tungsten handheld computers. They found Angela Leedom, whose husband was laid off last year from his utility lineman job and is working in Florida after the hurricanes. Leedom told ACT worker Carissa McCann, "Bush had his chance. We’re voting Kerry."

"Wonderful," replied McCann, a Shawnee State University student, recording the Leedom names in her computer.

On Nov. 2, Leedom can expect to get another call or visit -- even a ride to the polls."

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/2004/October/24/LNspot.htm


7 posted on 10/24/2004 7:15:03 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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Blog speculation:

"GOP GOTV vs. ACT and Moveon.org: The GOP has made enormous strides in its grassroots organization since the last presidential election. The 72-hour task force has transformed Republican get-out-the-vote efforts. I have held the opinion throughout this election cycle that these advances will be a huge factor this year. For a generation, Democratic special interests such as labor unions and African-American activist organizations have honed and developed a magnificent turnout machine. Until 2002, this juggernaut was met by a lot of commercials and automated phone calls from the GOP. The result was a consistent ground game advantage for the Democrats on election day. All that changed in 2002. The Republican party finally realized that it would be harder and harder to compete without fielding its own army of volunteers. The result: Election night in 2002 was a very good night for me and my fellow GOPers. Did the GOP GOTV match the Democrats on the street? It doesn't really matter. What matters is that it competed, and in competing won the day. 2004 will be the first presidential election in which the GOP will actually compete in the GOTV ground game. I believe this will be a tremendous advantage for President Bush. It could very well be the story of the election. The only thing that might negate or diminish its effect is the millions upon millions being poured into this race by Democratic 527's such as Americans Coming Together and Moveon.org. Their activity this year is unparalleled in election history, as far as I know, and could serve as a counterweight to the GOP's newfound GOTV strength. Potential advantage: Bush or Kerry"

http://www.electionprojection.com/archives100104.html

Another blog:

" Want to Gauge GOP Turnout on 11-2? Look at Coloardo on 9-21!

Why Colorado on 9-21? This was the first time the GOP tried out its new 72-hour get-out-the-vote program. In the GOP primary, Peter Coors faced Bob Schaffer; in the Democratic primary, Ken Salazar faced Mike Miles.

This was a competitive primary for both parties, and it was a primary for an open senate seat both parties coveted and thought (and continue to think) they can win. Both primary races were roughly competitive. Neither race was close. Salazar took 73% of the Democrat vote, Coors took 60%.

Thus, we would expect both sides to participate equally enthusiastically.

The results?

237,140 Democrats voted. 335,431 Republicans voted.

In the whole state, there are 1,012,518 registered Republicans, 841,997 registered Democrats.

Republican turnout: 33.1%
Democrat turnout: 28.1%

This is a greater victory for the GOP than just the 5% indicates. The GOP and the Democratic party are roughly equally strong in the state. Same resources, some bureaucracy, etc. Both parties were equally interested in this campaign; the GOP believes it can hold the seat, the Democratic Party believes it can steal it. The GOP managed to mobilize a significantly larger base by a significantly larger percentage. What's more, the Democrats are more experienced and better organized at executing get-out-the-vote efforts.

Again, Colorado is significant to examine because it is the place where the GOP attempted its new-and-improved GOTV program."

http://jaycost.blogspot.com/2004/10/want-to-gauge-gop-turnout-on-11-2-look.html


8 posted on 10/24/2004 7:26:52 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: rwfromkansas

I noticed a funny thing recently - actually it's not new, but it just struck me as kinda funny today.

The NRA gives Bush their endorsement, and we get a photo of a camo-clad Kerry the mighty, goose-slayer. Too bad he couldn't be seen carrying his prize lest his PETA base go ballistic. hehe.

Bush visits a prominent Catholic Bishop and Kerry starts talking about his "faith". Something this Catholic isn't buying given his numerous stands in opposition to the Church's teachings.

The man is a total follower. As such, I have no idea how he hopes to lead the country if elected - no matter how many Plans he has.


9 posted on 10/24/2004 7:33:18 PM PDT by Lady Tarheel
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Basically, it looks like this will come out to how much of an aid Moveon and ACT will be on Kerry's GOTV. If a major impact, it could make the GOTV game of Bush vs. Kerry pretty equal, which would still be to Bush's advantage since in 2000 and before, the Dems always had a huge GOTV advantage.

This year they will probably not....at worst, it surely will be equal despite the millions and millions and millions being spend by liberal 527's trying to get out the Kerry vote. But, adding in the union mobilization, I am just not sure.

But, at least this will be the first time the GOP has had a real GOTV effort in a presidential election.


10 posted on 10/24/2004 7:46:09 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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