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HISTORY: Forgotten Kentucky soldier was 'best cavalry general' in Civil War
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| 23 sept 2004
Posted on 09/23/2004 11:55:07 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Nathan Bedford Forrest and James Ewell Brown Stuart win by a mile.
To: Repairman Jack
Stuart was a showboating, grandstanding prima donna who couldn't or wouldn't follow orders and almost got his butt handed to him as early as Brandy Station.
Forrest was outstanding ...
Buford was probably the best at dragoon/mounted infantry tactics of all of the cavalrymen.
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posted on
09/23/2004 11:59:22 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
To: stainlessbanner
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:00:02 PM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
To: Repairman Jack
Perhaps he was the best Union cavalry general, but I agree with you that several Confederates were better overall.
Although Grierson and Sheridan could have given him a run even in the Union.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:00:19 PM PDT
by
Restorer
(They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
To: Repairman Jack
General Forrest maybe.
Buford and Forrest were both all business.
General Stuart went missing precisely when he was needed most.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:00:43 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: stainlessbanner
Just a note about the present . . . . General Buford's great-great-nephew is a State Senator in Kentucky and is running for Congress in the 6th District this fall as the Republican nominee.
http://www.bufordforcongress.com
To: stainlessbanner
"[Buford is] one of the best officers of [the Union Cavalry] and is a singular-looking party... a compactly built man of middle height, with a tawny mustache and a little triangular gray eye, whose expression is determined, not to say sinister. His ancient corduroys are tucked into a pair of ordinary cowhide boots and his blue blouse is ornamented with holes... notwithstanding this get-up, he is a very soldierly-looking man. He is of a good natured disposition but not to be trifled with."
Col. Theodore Lyman
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:01:39 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: BlueLancer; wideawake
To: Repairman Jack
Nathan Bedford Forrest and James Ewell Brown Stuart win by a mile. ...and for Kentuckians, how about John Hunt Morgan?
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:02:49 PM PDT
by
meandog
("Do unto others before they do unto you!")
To: Repairman Jack
TRIVIA QUESTION:
Nathan Bedford Forrest founded WHAT famous Reconstruction fraternal lodge?
You have six seconds... begin!
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:03:11 PM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
To: Repairman Jack
Too Bad ole' Jeb wasn't there the first day to prove your thought huh?
Forrest was probably too busy out west murdering POW's at the time.
Tis' a Shame...
To: Bluegrass Conservative
Oooh, THERE'S a good thing to know!
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:04:00 PM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(ZOT 'em all, let MOD sort 'em out!)
To: Old Sarge
The same one he disavowed a year and a half later after it became racist and violent.
To: Repairman Jack
Found on the web...
Just before the 2nd Battle of Bull Run Buford was ordered to make a reconnaissance across the Rapidan in force. He sent two of his regiments, the 1st Michigan and the 5th New York. The next day, they captured JEB Stuart's adjutant-general, who was carrying valuable dispatches from Lee.
Pressing on, they surprised Stuart himself while he was relaxing at a farmhouse with his staff.
Stuart narrowly got away, but not without leaving his famous plumed cavalier's hat and scarlet cloak - those fell into the regiments' hands as war prizes.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:04:50 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: stainlessbanner
Buford, described by a Yankee colonel as "decidedly the best cavalry general" in the Army of the Potomac Doubtless, but that is a far cry from having been the best cavalry commander on either side, during The Recent Unpleasantness.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:05:36 PM PDT
by
Bedford Forrest
(Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
To: stainlessbanner
Darn ... I did forget Mosby and J.H. Morgan for the Confederates ...
And Grierson and Little Phil Sheridan for the Yanks ...
The Graybacks had better true cavalrymen of the hussar heritage ... pistols and sabres.
The Yanks were better with the wave of the future .. mounted infantry/dismounted cavalry with the repeating rifles.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:05:56 PM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
To: stainlessbanner
Ah, the Grey Ghost. An excellent cavalry commander and responsible, even more than Stuart, for the ride around McClellan.
However, he was a cavalry colonel, not a general.
And, unlike Buford or Forrest, he cannot be credited with a decisive role in the outcome of a major battle.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:07:46 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: Repairman Jack
![](http://www.jonesboroga.com/history_tourism/history/images/sherman.jpg)
"Forrest must be hunted down and killed even if it costs 10 thousand lives and bankrupts that Federal Treasury."
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:08:25 PM PDT
by
KantianBurke
(Am back but just for a short while)
To: BlueLancer
I understood that Buford got his men equipped with the new Spencer carbines, paid for out of their own pockets, because the government wouldn't go for it. That was the only way that they could have held their position on 1 July 1863.
Their performance got the attention of the Administration, and Lincoln subsequently pushed procurement of the Spencers for all the Federal troops. Our people called those weapons the "Yankee Seven Devils" because of their multi-shot capability. (Actually, they held 8 rounds; don't know the reason behind the "seven" unless it's a Biblical reference.)
J.E.B.Stuart was off joyriding when the Battle of Gettysburg started -- deprived Gen. Lee of critical intelligence information when it mattered most.
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posted on
09/23/2004 12:09:25 PM PDT
by
thulldud
(It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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