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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!

Posted on 09/18/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?

A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the last thread we had a great time and were a great help to each other working through lessons and training, horse lamenesses and illnesses, questions and challenges and always just our stories we like to tell.

I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

So... like the last thread, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.


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To: HairOfTheDog

It gets up to the nineties here. Sometimes over a 100 at mid day but not often. Mornings are cool, evenings are nippy. We are at a higher altitude than Phoenix, over 4000' so that makes a difference.


6,741 posted on 12/27/2004 11:33:05 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: CindyDawg

It's just a grassy looking grass. Many lawns are a rye/fescue blend.


6,742 posted on 12/27/2004 11:33:46 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; AnAmericanMother

Would yall tell me again how to lay a horse down? The posts buried. You take hold of the opposite side of the bit and pull their head towards you, right?


6,743 posted on 12/27/2004 11:35:42 AM PST by CindyDawg (Valentines on sale)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Rye? That's what we plant in our yards in the winter around here.


6,744 posted on 12/27/2004 11:38:05 AM PST by CindyDawg (Valentines on sale)
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To: CindyDawg

Okay, check http://www.powells.com which is a used book store in Seattle. Their prices are good, delivery great, and they will keep a notify list for you.


6,745 posted on 12/27/2004 11:39:25 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: CindyDawg

What? Cindy why are you asking?


6,746 posted on 12/27/2004 11:46:27 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Remember the post where they were talking about laying horses down and you said you might even try it on Pony? I have got to start taking notes or at least post #s. When I go to look for stuff it's too much. I can't find it.

Why? You know. If Sarah Lee ever bucks me off again she's going down too. I just need to refresh though so I make sure I get it done in 10 seconds:'). I'm respectful of her size but I'm not afraid of her any more, Hair. I'll do what the trainers recommend, (kind of) but I'm tired of this crap. If she's going to stay she's going to behave. Even if it doesn't stop the bucking she's going to see what it's like to eat dirt too.

6,747 posted on 12/27/2004 11:57:41 AM PST by CindyDawg (Valentines on sale)
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To: CindyDawg

I don't know Cindy.... It seems like a pretty varsity move.... to be demonstrated and done by someone experienced. I wouldn't do it alone, even on the pony.


6,748 posted on 12/27/2004 12:00:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yeah I know and a last resort that I will hopefully never have to use but I will if I have to. If I prevent it or stay on it's not an issue. Eddie can watch but if he helps it will be just like with Okie. He'll be the alpha.


6,749 posted on 12/27/2004 12:04:26 PM PST by CindyDawg (Valentines on sale)
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To: CindyDawg

If you have a horse you need to lay down, you don't need the horse, remember the horse that Becky did that too was an act of last resort to try to salavage the horse, it didn't work and she sold the horse and got another one that didn't have those kind of problems.

BigMack


6,750 posted on 12/27/2004 12:11:32 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: CindyDawg

Well, I'm not real sure I'd try that. You can pull a horse that is rearing over relatively easy (every thing is relative with a 1200 animal) but other than that, she's not going cooperate while you do this, cause it's going to scare her immensly.


6,751 posted on 12/27/2004 12:11:58 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

I am not sure I could even get my very compliant Bay to lay down that way. That takes not only strength and guts but skill, and experience doing it, I'd think, before you could inflict it on a horse as a correction for anything.

Its a tool for pros, correcting hard cases, I think.


6,752 posted on 12/27/2004 1:52:15 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Boy, I totally agree. Never in a million years would I try it. Not worth getting hurt or hurting the horse. I have never been a fan of breaking a horse's spirit myself, and that is one of the reasons some trainers do it.

I know with rearing horses it sometimes stops the rearing behavior but there is such a risk of injury to the horse and a whip across the front cannon bones will accomplish about the same thing.

I'm a real wimp - I talk to my horses and explain that I don't care for their behavior - not that they pay alot of attention to me :)


6,753 posted on 12/27/2004 2:05:26 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

I haven't had one rear up that was more than about two months old. Easy to solve at the age when you can still pull them back down again.


6,754 posted on 12/27/2004 2:08:51 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yes, it's not generally a problem - occassionally with a high spirited baby being led out to pasture but no threat intended on the horse's part. I don't think we'd own an adult horse that didn't get over that real quick.


6,755 posted on 12/27/2004 2:13:46 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47
My Christmas street urchin dog is still here... No word from an owner. He's getting along well with Gidget the Dalbrador though....


6,756 posted on 12/27/2004 2:50:23 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

He looks like a sweet old man. Can you keep him?


6,757 posted on 12/27/2004 2:58:43 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

Of course we can... I'd just be surprised if he isn't missed by someone... He seems quite familiar with the comforts of life, including the couch.

Although, they have let him get a little thin, and a little itchy, hair all thin in the back. Not itching so much after a bath, but I need to get him on Advantage.


6,758 posted on 12/27/2004 3:02:34 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Duchess47; All
strength and guts but skill, and experience

Hey I got guts and when I'm mad I'm strong:')

Hair NO

Mack NO

Duchess NO

Sarah Lee's Trainer NO

My trainer HELL NO!!!

and if I get dumped it's my fault and not the horses because I didn't watch for "signs" and stop a thought before action

NO it is, sigh but Sarah Lee not skating. I still may shoot her (just kidding-kind of:') Maybe if we ever meet up one of you "experienced guys" can show me how though? Please?

As you can tell I had a bad day. I know I'm not indispensable but to find a replacement for me less than an hour after I turned in my resignation.....? That hurt:') It reminds me when I was leaving home and moving my stuff out of my room and my sister was moving hers in

It was nice at the stables though. They all got put back in the pastures. I wish I had brought my camera. I had gorgeous action shots:')

6,759 posted on 12/27/2004 3:06:25 PM PST by CindyDawg (Valentines on sale)
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NO it is, sigh but Sarah Lee not skating. I still may shoot her (just kidding-kind of:') Maybe if we ever meet up one of you "experienced guys" can show me how though? Please?

Most of us have never done such a thing. Becky has once, we'll see if she thinks it's wise for you, I don't want to put words in her mouth.

This isn't something most riders do. It isn't something most people would want to do, it's an extreme method professional horsetrainers and old cowboys may use for unruly horses, but I don't think it is the magic fix you think it is.

You'll just have to work with her, learn as you go about your horse, and take what advice is given you by people you trust.

Sorry you had a downer at work... I have always been bummed when I have left jobs with what I thought were vital skills to do it and they never called me once to figure something out!

I wish you would have taken pictures too! We were just about to go out and take some, it's sunny here and we were gonna take blankets off for a bit. They always run then.

6,760 posted on 12/27/2004 3:18:28 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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