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Posted on 09/18/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?
A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the last thread we had a great time and were a great help to each other working through lessons and training, horse lamenesses and illnesses, questions and challenges and always just our stories we like to tell.
I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!
I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.
So... like the last thread, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.
Oh - it's good stuff... Your tribute to the horse is beautiful! Don't apologize!
Welcome and thanks for the pictures. I'm so very sorry for your daughter and her friend.
A very good quality of mustangs and appaloosas is that they generally don't panic blindly about things that really set other horses off. The two breeds are very good about taking care of themselves most of the time.
She's @ 7-8 y.o....@14-14.3 hh. She's a Rocky Mountain horse (gaited). She was 'given' to us because she was labeled as lame/navicular.
We pulled her shoes. Started trimming/rasping her hooves 2-3 x's a week , using the 'Strasser'/EDSS/HPT guidelines.
After her FIRST trim, she was walking 'normally'....no limp, no head bob, no toe first landing. She's NOW a 'terror' at graining time, runs around chasing everyone away from their tubs. Today, we found her OUTSIDE the fence at the field. LOL.
Thank you soooo much. I have a feeling that the Lord will be doing some ministering tonight, during 'sleep time'.
My Bay has Navicular symptoms... he's staying pretty sound on Isoxoprene.
Your girls look like they have a great time on their horses. :~D
Have to go for the night....the girls called and are stressing out.
Good night.
Navicular is a 'man-made' ailment/disease.
I should say isoxoprene and good trimming, and pads, and he's staying pretty sound....
I've GOTTA go.
It's a weak link .... when they are used hard something wears out first.
My Bay is 22. He endurance raced through his teens on 50 and 100 mile races. He also has carried pretty big riders on high country trail after that. He's in semi retirement now as a lightly used trail horse for as long as he can be kept comfortable.
Understood, we'll talk Navicular tomorrow.
Drugs and pads only 'mask' the troubles... make them appear to be resolved.
If you have the extra time, do a google on 1)'natural trim'....2)'strasser trim'....3)**'gretchen fathauer'**... 4)**'gene ovnicek'**...5)'KC LaPierre'.
The web sites of # 3 and #4 will absolutely floor ya. They have done things that farriers and vets said is impossible.
Navicular/founder...man-made ailments/diseases.
and another.....http://www.naturalhorsetrim.com/
Here's a conglomeration of sites....http://www.thehorseshoof.com/links.html
I know his Navicular isn't resolved by drugs and pads, nor do I think it ever will be. It's being managed. But he is free of pain, and there are other steps that can be taken if he needs more later.
I'll be upfront that am pretty cynical about natural trim, and barefoot as a religion -- That's a joke - no offense meant... but it's a trendy thing a lot of people are trying right now, and they're all enthusiastic about getting everyone to change. So I have heard about it. I'd be willing to talk about it, Becky tried it last summer, had trouble with them staying sound and I think it is difficult for a horse that has been shod to go back to barefoot. I would have said no horse would hold up on trail barefoot, but Cyn, our new horse, is barefoot and has never been shod. She has very hard feet and we are playing it by ear with her.
I believe you are right about it being a man made disease, but it's from man-made work they wouldn't have done in the wild. And ailments that become apparent when they are living three times longer than they would in the wild.
This is Bay this last summer... 22 years old. Polish Arab.
I'll tell ya, these animals will break your heart. We've never had anything die suddenly but it's just a matter of time with this many critters. I can't imagine what would happen to my oldest daughter if one of her horses suddenly died or even worse, died in front of her. I can't even imagine it.
I was just reading a vet book about horses dying suddenly and it said that heart attacks and anuerysims (sp?) will get them. Parasites do alot of damage and can cause the aneurysms.
Good morning,
Bay certainly is beautiful and he does not look 22!
All of my horses are barefoot except for Tuffy. He has crappy feet and needs shoes or he's too ouchie. Winnie the Palomino has lovely hard feet and has never had shoes, per the pervious owner, so I don't see any point in putting shoes on her now.
We got to ride for an hour or so yesterday. Tuffy was a semi-buckethead, Winnie was just the same as always.
Oh he can show his age, like this time of year when his face is all fuzzy, and he stands all swaybacked dozing... but he can still pick it up. ;~D
Good morning!
I just came in from putting the horses in the barn, it's sleeting right now. My mini's and donkey have access to a run-in shed but they are standing out in the sleet. I'm fixing them a treat, some hot soaked beet pulp, that I'll give them in a little while. The donkey and one of the mini's will founder if you look at them cross-eyed and the beet pulp is pretty safe so that's what they get. My goats like it, too.
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