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Posted on 09/18/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?
A few of us thought it would be interesting and informative to have a chat thread where we can share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the last thread we had a great time and were a great help to each other working through lessons and training, horse lamenesses and illnesses, questions and challenges and always just our stories we like to tell.
I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!
I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.
So... like the last thread, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.
Several years ago at a 4H Horse Show a so called trainer rode our PB quite hard.( I wasn't there at the time or I would have rammed the bit in her mouth, too) The result was a sore mouth which was unnoticeable. His vet gave him a shot of something...dang.. I forget what it was. The next day PB at the pellets.
Oops...didn't read your post before I posted. I see we are thinking along the same lines.
He is only 6, and I had his teeth checked in the spring.
I don't know if you followed this thread back this summer, but he has, I thought "had" other health issues. I thought we had him over them. He didn't sweat, and his respiration was always very high. We found out from bloodwork that he did have a respirtory infection, but ruled out ulcers. He's been doing great since we got him over the infection. Sweating pretty good, gaining weight, and his repiration as been good. She said it might always be a bit high, as she thinks he may have a tiny bit of lung damage. But his respiration is fine, now. Everything seems fine, except he's not eating.
Becky
Had a neighbor run into my barn last night begging for Banamine..
It's that "seasonal-change-colic" time of year..
I also gave him a handout on the subject that we keep for the boarders..It's just an article from Horse Illustrated, but it gives them an informed source..
MMMMM bran mash...everyone loves that. Don't hesitate to give that a try.
Colic comes in a spectrum of severity from a mild annoyance to life threatening. Sounds like your case is slowly improving.
Proper care of teeth can be part of this too.
We've had horses come in who haven't been floated in years and the owners can't figure out why the poor fellow in unable to gain weight, or wasting grain, or taking all night to eat two flakes of hay..
Could a mild colic last 3 days?
Becky
Interesting and positive that he would nibble hay. I don't think horses particularly get 'tired' of a kind of feed to the point where they stop eating either, but I could see that if his stomach is upset at all, he may seek something different. I wondered if he would graze on green grass if you let him into the yard, but the hay is good too.
There was a big problem with West Nile, and EPM in this area.
Good Luck!
Sure.. especially if he seems to be improving today, that would make sense..
They usually begin colicking, go downhill to a crisis or cure, and then improve, if they're going to, by the third day.
We keep them on watch for about two or three days after to monitor any relapse and feeding.
Hold the grain.
Give them the mash and apples and maybe some yogurt if they are tempted by that.
Good grass hay, no alfalfa..
That's sort of our BRAT diet for horses..
This is most often the mild colic scenario,
They get tachycardic (increased heart rate), respirations raise and may be shallow, sometimes they roll (not a good idea to allow) or bite their sides..
Barring a tortion or surgery-required impaction, three days is real normal..
Yes, I agree, but in this case it was that particular trainer. It was witnessed by another trainer...one with far better credentials.
Oh sorry.. didn't catch that part of the tale.
I should know better, I can never seem to read back far enough on these long threads..
But thanks for giving me an idea for an article for the barn newsletter.
Uh Oh.. that's becoming periously close to "journalism".. a fate worse then "lawyerdom".
Just got back from the feed store with some bran. He's picking at it. I put him out with another horse for awhile, and he played. I had been keeping him in the arena where I could see him from the house. Maybe he was lonely. I've put him back in his run, but locked up the other horse in his run so that Rusty can see him. This has never been a problem in the past, but maybe he didn't like the arena...who knows. I'll see how much of the mash he eats.
Becky
Not riding today either... it's pouring out.
I hope Rusty got a good meal in and Becky's mind is put more at ease. I am sure he is not aware that his future depends on him being a little bit low maintenance for awhile!
Bay's leg is better. There is a hard knot on his shin still under the site of that scuff, which I still think was him kicking himself. But the general swelling all around has gone way down.
Rusty seemed the same this morning as last night. He didn't eat last nights feed.
Trying a bran mash today.
I'll be home all day today so can monitor things better then the last two, since I wasn't home.
Becky
Well, I don't think the bran mash is going to work. He picked at it and now is standing off by Harley.
How long will that stuff stay good in the bucket. I'd think something like that could get sour quick????
How long should I leave it out there. It's pretty warm and humid here.
Becky
We start all of our horses on a snaffle bit and/or a bosal. I can't tell you why, I never thought about it and it's always been that way. How's that for stuck in the mud? The show on the 16th was the first time our geldings, 9yrs and 7yrs had ever had a solid bit. I used to ride my old mare with a tom thumb.
I'm at work so I can't ask my husband why this is so, although I know he has a real pet peeve about hard mouthed horses.
I am hoping someone will jump in and give you some info so I can learn something here. Reading this thread, I'm finding out that "we've always done it that way" isn't a very good explanation.
I wish I had been there, but unfortunately my daughter had to see the trainer ram the bit in PB's mouth. When I did confront the trainer it was like something out of the twilight zone. She never answered any of my questions. Instead, she went on a rant about how unfair the judging in shows can be. She continued by ranting about Arabians and how much she disliked everything about them.
A little history about PB. The previous owners basically abandoned him. He was stalled for close to 3 years. While searching for a horse for our daughter we talked to the stable owner. The previous owners owed her big $$$. She sold PB to us for back fees.
Our daughter had no experience riding. None , whatsoever. Others who knew of PB from past shows thought he was going to "kill" her. In less than two weeks she was riding him...well....very well indeed. In fact at the one and only horse show with him a very well known trainer in NYS said to me that he was very impressed with her and that she was the only one who was actually "riding" and that she was a "natural". He said she was in tune to PB movements.
The bond she has with PB is amazing. I see that bond,too with her other horse. She adopted him as a Premarin foal last year. My jaw drops when I see the progress she has made with this 18 month stallion. She is teaching him the Pat Parelli way and has him very familar with a bit and saddle. She realizes that he is too young to ride.
Gosh, I think I have rambled enough. Sorry. Can you tell I'm quite proud?
Darn it. I'm sorry to hear that.
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