[Jemian]

Can you imagine having to 11 hours before using the bathroom? Do you live in an apartment? Otherwise, please consider fencing in your backyard or a portion of it so the dogs can be outside during the day. Or, can you search for someone to adopt them?

They are probably a little confused now with their owner no longer on the scene. I would recommend keeping them together. Dogs are pack animals and like each other's company.

This is a rough thing you're having to deal with. My prayers go up for you.

[JockoManning]

thanks for the prayers.

i don't want to make life miserable for them.

what i am looking for is info from experienced pet owners as to the max time a dog can be trained to stay in a crate.

does anyone know of any good books on this topic or maybe a website i could go to for info?